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Sri_Narasimha_11
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Apr 05, 2023

Disabling Weak Ciphers

Hi Experts,

We've been asked to disable the weak ciphers in F5 (12.1.2). Would like to seek help in getting the relevant ciphers disabled.

Currently, it's configured as DEFAULT in SSL profiles. Shall I proceed with this Cipher list DEFAULT:!DHE:!TLSV1_TLSV1_1  ...? Below are the alerts

PROTOCOL CIPHER NAME GROUP KEY-SIZE FORWARD-SECRET CLASSICAL-STRENGTH QUANTUM-STRENGTH
TLSv1 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA DHE 1024 yes 80 low
TLSv1 DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA DHE 1024 yes 80 low
TLSv1 EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA DHE 1024 yes 80 low
TLSv1.1 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA DHE 1024 yes 80 low
TLSv1.1 DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA DHE 1024 yes 80 low
TLSv1.1 EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA DHE 1024 yes 80 low
TLSv1.2 DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 DHE 1024 yes 80 low
TLSv1.2 DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 DHE 1024 yes 80 low
TLSv1.2 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256 DHE 1024 yes 80 low
TLSv1.2 DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 DHE 1024 yes 80 low
TLSv1.2 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA DHE 1024 yes 80 low
TLSv1.2 DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA DHE 1024 yes 80 low
TLSv1.2 EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA DHE 1024 yes 80 low#

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  • CA_Valli's avatar
    CA_Valli
    Apr 17, 2023

    I'm running v15.1.8 and the following matches.

    DEFAULT:!TLSv1:!TLSv1_1:!DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:!DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:!DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:!DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:!DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256:!DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256

     

    I built it starting from DEFAULT:!TLSv1:!TLSv1_1  and excluding explicitly the suites from your comment that still were in the list. (I noticed there was 3 repetitions; also EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA did not show up in cipher rule so there was no need to specify it) 

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      Sri_Narasimha_11
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      Apr 05, 2023

      Hi CA_Valli 

      Many thanks for helping me out. I've ran this string on F5.

      tmm --clientciphers 'DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA'

      I've two queries:-

      How to exclude (!) this along with protocol TLSV1 and TLSV1_1?

      Once done, how to check what are the ciphers/protocols allowed to use for this attached Virtual server?

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        CA_Valli
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        Apr 06, 2023

        The list you gave me are all ciphers that need exclusion? Cipher exclusion requires you to put the :! syntax before every single suite that you don't need. 

        You still need to start from a certains set however, and then exlude ciphers that aren't necessary.

        I've seen you're running DEFAULT , so I'll keep that as a starting point. First exclude TLS1 and TLS1.1 with "DEFAULT:!TLS1:!TLS1_1" and run tmm --clientciphers "<string>" to see if there's still some suites that must be removed, it's likely that the weak TLS1.2 suites you mentioned will still be in the list, for example DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384

        You need to exclude all of the unnecessary suites manually, so string will become "DEFAULT:!TLS1:!TLS1_1:!DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:!<...>:!<...>:!<...>"

        When you're done, run again tmm --clientciphers <string> to see the list of the remaining allowed suites.

         

        Cheat sheet: http://smanthey.net/downloads/ssl/ssl-cipher-cs-a4-02.pdf