troubleshooting serverssl profile with client cert..
Hi all!
We have a virtualserver with a serverssl profile configured with a client cert. According to the technician working with the backend nginx node they´re not getting the client cert. Does anyone know a good way for us to verify that the cert is there or not? Would a tcpdump be sufficient?
Tcpdump can be very helpful in capturing and analyzing the traffic between the client, F5, and backend Nginx node. You can use the following command to capture the traffic:
tcpdump -i <interface> -s0 -w /var/tmp/capture.pcap host <client_ip> and host <nginx_ip> and port <nginx_port>
Once you have the capture file, you can transfer it to your local machine and analyze it using Wireshark or another packet analysis tool.
Look for the SSL handshake packets and examine the Certificate message to see if the client certificate is being sent.
Nginx Configuration:
Ensure that your Nginx server is configured to request and accept client certificates. This typically involves setting the ssl_verify_client directive to on or optional and specifying the trusted CA certificates with ssl_client_certificate.
Check the Nginx logs to see if there are any messages related to client certificate validation. The logs can provide clues about whether the certificate is being received and if there are any issues with it.
Finally
You can also use tmsh commands on the F5 to get more insights into the SSL profile and connections. For example:
Many times you cannot validate mismatch in Cer/Key/Chain combination from TCPdump or SSL DUMP.
To reduce the troubleshooting time you can try following process if oyu are not sure of if the cert+Key+chain are valid for each other or not.
its a very important step to isolate the issue.
You need to validate the cert key Chain pair MD5 validity on both sides Client Side SSL profile and server Side SSL profile first to validate the right cert key and chain pair are in use.
you need to gather the path of all the config items as follows before start executing the commands to get the MD5 hash to validate right cert key and chain pair are in use
I use WINSCP software to get these paths.
You can also use cd command to get these paths from the CLI.
Get client side certPath =============== /config/filestore/files_d/Common_d/certificate_d/\:Common:TEST_server_cert2_66362_1
K13349: Verifying SSL certificate and key pairs from the command line (11.x - 16.x)
Description
The BIG-IP system uses SSL encryption for functions, such as load balancing Client and Server SSL virtual servers, and securing administrative connections. Occasionally, you may need to verify SSL certificate and key pairs by using the command line. You can verify whether a given SSL certificate and SSL key match, by comparing the public key information obtained from both. If the public key information for each is the same, then the SSL certificate and SSL private key are a matching pair.
Prerequisites
You must meet the following prerequisite to use this procedure:
You have command line access to the BIG-IP system.
Procedures
Verifying SSL certificate and key pairs used by Client and Server SSL profiles
Impact of procedure: The following procedure should not have a negative impact on your system.
Log in to the BIG-IP command line.
Locate the SSL certificate and key pair used by the SSL profile using the following table:
To obtain the public key information for the SSL certificate, use the following command syntax:Note: The command output is passed through md5sum to reduce the amount of text compared in the final step.For example, if the SSL certificate used by the SSL profile resides on the Common partition, and is named www.test.com.crt, use the following command:Output should display the md5 message digest, similar to the following example:
To obtain the public key information for the SSL private key, use the following command syntax:Note: Ensure that you choose the correct key option (RSA, DSA, or EC) for the type of SSL key being verified; most SSL keys use RSA.For example, if the SSL key used by the SSL profile resides on the Common partition, is named www.test.com.key, and is the RSA type, use the following command:Note: For passphrase encrypted keys you will be prompted to enter the passphrase. Optionally, to prevent being prompted for the passphrase, you can include the -passin pass:<passphrase> option in the command using the following syntax:Output should display the md5 message digest, similar to the following example:
f8f154ba5cf31b9798b7671549be1bf0
Note: Output will not be echoed to STDOUT. The passphrase will be saved to a variable named REPLY read -s openssl <rsa|dsa|ec> -in <path_to_key>/<key_name> -passin pass:"${REPLY}" -pubout | md5sum && unset REPLY
Compare the md5 message digests from steps 3 and 4 to ensure that they are the same.
Verifying the default SSL certificate and key pair used by the Configuration utility
Impact of procedure: The following procedure should not have a negative impact on your system.
Log in to the BIG-IP command line.
To obtain the public key information for the SSL certificate, use the following command syntax:Note: The command output is passed through md5sum to reduce the amount of text compared in the final step.For example:Output should display the md5 message digest, similar to the following example:
To obtain the public key information for the SSL private key, use the following command syntax:openssl rsa -in <path_to_key>/<key_name> -pubout | md5sumopenssl rsa -in /config/httpd/conf/ssl.key/server.key -pubout | md5sumNote: Output will not be echoed to STDOUT. The passphrase will be saved to a variable named REPLY read -s openssl rsa -in <path_to_key>/<key_name> -passin pass:"${REPLY}" -pubout | md5sum && unset REPLY95500b0e49e155da5cc6eee0cdb99911
Output should display the md5 message digest, similar to the following example:
Note: For passphrase encrypted keys you will be prompted to enter the passphrase. Optionally, to prevent being prompted for the passphrase, you can include the -passin pass:<passphrase> option in the command using the following syntax:
For example:
Compare the md5 message digests from steps 2 and 3 to ensure that they are the same.
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Hi all!
We have a virtualserver with a serverssl profile configured with a client cert. According to the technician working with the backend nginx node they´re not getting the client cert. Does anyone know a good way for us to verify that the cert is there or not? Would a tcpdump be sufficient?
/Kim
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Hi all!
We have a virtualserver with a serverssl profile configured with a client cert. According to the technician working with the backend nginx node they´re not getting the client cert. Does anyone know a good way for us to verify that the cert is there or not? Would a tcpdump be sufficient?
/Kim
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yes, tcpdump will show details of the ssl session setup.
if there is ips/ids/ngfw between f5 and pool member, they might do ssl proxy that removes the f5's client cert.
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as zamroni777 says tcpdump should be enough. it helps knowing what to look for, the article gives an example:
also notice the TLS1.3 section, in that case you might have to look into decrypting traffic.
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Tcpdump can be very helpful in capturing and analyzing the traffic between the client, F5, and backend Nginx node. You can use the following command to capture the traffic:
tcpdump -i <interface> -s0 -w /var/tmp/capture.pcap host <client_ip> and host <nginx_ip> and port <nginx_port>
Once you have the capture file, you can transfer it to your local machine and analyze it using Wireshark or another packet analysis tool.
Look for the SSL handshake packets and examine the Certificate message to see if the client certificate is being sent.
Nginx Configuration:
Ensure that your Nginx server is configured to request and accept client certificates. This typically involves setting the ssl_verify_client directive to on or optional and specifying the trusted CA certificates with ssl_client_certificate.
Check the Nginx logs to see if there are any messages related to client certificate validation. The logs can provide clues about whether the certificate is being received and if there are any issues with it.
Finally
You can also use tmsh commands on the F5 to get more insights into the SSL profile and connections. For example:
tmsh show ltm profile client-ssl <profile_name>
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Many times you cannot validate mismatch in Cer/Key/Chain combination from TCPdump or SSL DUMP.
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To reduce the troubleshooting time you can try following process if oyu are not sure of if the cert+Key+chain are valid for each other or not.
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its a very important step to isolate the issue.
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You need to validate the cert key Chain pair MD5 validity on both sides Client Side SSL profile and server Side SSL profile first to validate the right cert key and chain pair are in use.
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you need to gather the path of all the config items as follows before start executing the commands to get the MD5 hash to validate right cert key and chain pair are in use
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I use WINSCP software to get these paths.
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You can also use cd command to get these paths from the CLI.
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Get client side certPath =============== /config/filestore/files_d/Common_d/certificate_d/\\:Common:TEST_server_cert2_66362_1
K13349: Verifying SSL certificate and key pairs from the command line (11.x - 16.x)
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Description
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The BIG-IP system uses SSL encryption for functions, such as load balancing Client and Server SSL virtual servers, and securing administrative connections. Occasionally, you may need to verify SSL certificate and key pairs by using the command line. You can verify whether a given SSL certificate and SSL key match, by comparing the public key information obtained from both. If the public key information for each is the same, then the SSL certificate and SSL private key are a matching pair.
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Prerequisites
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You must meet the following prerequisite to use this procedure:
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You have command line access to the BIG-IP system.
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Procedures
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Verifying SSL certificate and key pairs used by Client and Server SSL profiles
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Impact of procedure: The following procedure should not have a negative impact on your system.
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Log in to the BIG-IP command line.
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Locate the SSL certificate and key pair used by the SSL profile using the following table: \n
To obtain the public key information for the SSL certificate, use the following command syntax:Note: The command output is passed through md5sum to reduce the amount of text compared in the final step.For example, if the SSL certificate used by the SSL profile resides on the Common partition, and is named www.test.com.crt, use the following command:Output should display the md5 message digest, similar to the following example:
To obtain the public key information for the SSL private key, use the following command syntax:Note: Ensure that you choose the correct key option (RSA, DSA, or EC) for the type of SSL key being verified; most SSL keys use RSA.For example, if the SSL key used by the SSL profile resides on the Common partition, is named www.test.com.key, and is the RSA type, use the following command:Note: For passphrase encrypted keys you will be prompted to enter the passphrase. Optionally, to prevent being prompted for the passphrase, you can include the -passin pass:<passphrase> option in the command using the following syntax:Output should display the md5 message digest, similar to the following example:
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f8f154ba5cf31b9798b7671549be1bf0
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Note: Output will not be echoed to STDOUT. The passphrase will be saved to a variable named REPLY read -s openssl <rsa|dsa|ec> -in <path_to_key>/<key_name> -passin pass:\"${REPLY}\" -pubout | md5sum && unset REPLY
Compare the md5 message digests from steps 3 and 4 to ensure that they are the same.
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Verifying the default SSL certificate and key pair used by the Configuration utility
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Impact of procedure: The following procedure should not have a negative impact on your system.
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Log in to the BIG-IP command line.
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To obtain the public key information for the SSL certificate, use the following command syntax:Note: The command output is passed through md5sum to reduce the amount of text compared in the final step.For example:Output should display the md5 message digest, similar to the following example:
To obtain the public key information for the SSL private key, use the following command syntax:openssl rsa -in <path_to_key>/<key_name> -pubout | md5sumopenssl rsa -in /config/httpd/conf/ssl.key/server.key -pubout | md5sumNote: Output will not be echoed to STDOUT. The passphrase will be saved to a variable named REPLY read -s openssl rsa -in <path_to_key>/<key_name> -passin pass:\"${REPLY}\" -pubout | md5sum && unset REPLY95500b0e49e155da5cc6eee0cdb99911
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Output should display the md5 message digest, similar to the following example:
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Note: For passphrase encrypted keys you will be prompted to enter the passphrase. Optionally, to prevent being prompted for the passphrase, you can include the -passin pass:<passphrase> option in the command using the following syntax:
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For example:
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Compare the md5 message digests from steps 2 and 3 to ensure that they are the same.
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Rate if it helps.
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HTH
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F5 Design Engineer
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