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Jan 03, 2014

Dynamic GTM load balancing for generic hosts?

Can a GTM be to used to dynamically load balance between generic host servers. [I don't have an LTM] I see that the big3d agent is needed to collect statics for dynamic load balancing, and I ca...

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hoolio

Cirrostratus

Aug 13, 2012

Hi Peter,

You're correct that you should ideally have one GTM per data center. If the GTM fails or critical resources in a datacenter fail the affected WideIPs will be resolved to a data center that has the virtual servers available. This is DNS based load balancing so there isn't really a concept of active connections. Depending on the WideIP load balancing algorithm you can enable persistence and mirroring of the persistence records.

If you want more specific recommendations I recommend you contact an F5 or partner SE to discuss your exact requirements.

Aaron

hoolio
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Jun 28, 2011
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Hi Jason,

You could add a step to your procedures to blank the remote syslogging during the maintenance window:

Remove the syslog include statements from memory

b syslog include none

Reload the syslog and other config from disk to memory

b load

Note that the 'b load' would have a momentary impact on active connections. You could also save off the syslog include statements and re-enter them using bpsh instead of running a b load.

Aaron
JasonJ_44065
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Thanks Aaron, that is something we could look into but it looks like that would suppress all syslog messages. Is there a way to do something similar but apply it to one specific pool?

We have about 25 server pools and are looking to suppress messages for just the pools that are undergoing maintenance, that way we can still monitor everything else. As it sits right now I am getting about 150 log messages during the maintenance of a single pool making it hard to monitor the rest of our devices.

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I have been asked to look into, and prepare a paper on the implementation of a global load balancing solution for our two data centres, one based in Manchester, UK & the other based in Guildford, UK. At present, we manually configure failover by updating DNS entries, which can take upto 24 hours to propagate to all servers on the Internet.

When doing research, I have come across the F5 Global Traffic Manager (GTM) product, which at a high level appears to do exactly what we want it to do.

Unfortunately, the information I can find about the product is limited, it is either really vague, or really technical.

My understanding of the solution we require so far is:

- We will have (atleast) one unit in each site

- These act as the authoratative servers for our domain (3Dns)

- These communicate internally using iQuery (I assume this is similar to HSRP/VRRP in networking) and should a failure occur in either site, the failed servers are removed from the \"virtual site\" (there can be upto 10 seconds of downtime for some users due to caching)

Unfortunately i'm still unable to get my head around the DNS aspect, and also have the following questions:

- is replication between devices stateful, i.e if there is a failover during active connections, will these continue to be served or will they time-out?

- what happens should the internal heartbeat be lost between devices but the upstream Internet connections continue to function fine, can the device communicate using a VPN-style public connection?

Any info that can be given would be greatly received.

Best regards,

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When doing research, I have come across the F5 Global Traffic Manager (GTM) product, which at a high level appears to do exactly what we want it to do.

Unfortunately, the information I can find about the product is limited, it is either really vague, or really technical.

My understanding of the solution we require so far is:

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Unfortunately i'm still unable to get my head around the DNS aspect, and also have the following questions:

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- what happens should the internal heartbeat be lost between devices but the upstream Internet connections continue to function fine, can the device communicate using a VPN-style public connection?

Any info that can be given would be greatly received.

Best regards,

Peter"},"Conversation:conversation:176706":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:176706","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:176706"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2012-08-13T13:14:30.000-07:00","lastPostTime":"2012-08-13T13:14:30.000-07:00","unreadReplyCount":1,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:176706":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:176706","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:176706_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:176706_1","lastEditTime":"2012-08-13T00:41:14.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:176707":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:176707","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:176706"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:29768"},"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:176706/message:176707","revisionNum":1,"uid":176707,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"subject":"Re: F5 Global Traffic Manager","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:176707"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:176706"},"body":"Hi Peter,

If you want more specific recommendations I recommend you contact an F5 or partner SE to discuss your exact requirements.

Aaron","body@stringLength":"705","rawBody":"Hi Peter,

If you want more specific recommendations I recommend you contact an F5 or partner SE to discuss your exact requirements.

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