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Is it possible to distribute multiple HTTP requests that use the same TCP connection?

We have a single client that is doing address validation. The address validation servers are located behind the F5 BigIP LTM. This client is making multiple HTTP requests a second over one TCP connec...
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As far as I understood the SSL Cache Timeout is only interested in when the SSL negotiation takes places and is not interested in activity. It's use is to increase the performance on the box, in reducing the amount of SSL renegotiations that take place but this is counter balanced by the decreased security of having the same session open for longer periods. So, to conclude, you are seeing the expected behaviour.

 

 

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I expected when I saw this value and it's default of one hour that the SSL session would expire after one hour of inactivity. This only causes a problem for us because we're associating a client cert with the SSL session ID (in the session table) and when the new SSL session is negotiated for some reason IE is not resending the client certificate and does not prompt the user to select one. Since it is associated with the old SSL session ID the user just gets redirected to our \"client cert required\" screen in the middle of an active session. As far as our back end app server is concerned it just didn't receive a client cert from Big IP so that is the default behavior (to redirect to that screen).

 

 

I can provide more details if necessary but I'm really just trying to understand the SSL cache timeout as that seems to be the key to resolving our issue. (In case you're wondering the timeout on the \"session add\" command that adds the cert to the session table is currently set to be longer than the cache timeout and it doesn't make a difference. Testing has indicated that timeout does get extended with activity (apparently) unlike the cache timeout).

 

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I can provide more details if necessary but I'm really just trying to understand the SSL cache timeout as that seems to be the key to resolving our issue. (In case you're wondering the timeout on the \"session add\" command that adds the cert to the session table is currently set to be longer than the cache timeout and it doesn't make a difference. Testing has indicated that timeout does get extended with activity (apparently) unlike the cache timeout).

 

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As far as I understood the SSL Cache Timeout is only interested in when the SSL negotiation takes places and is not interested in activity. It's use is to increase the performance on the box, in reducing the amount of SSL renegotiations that take place but this is counter balanced by the decreased security of having the same session open for longer periods. So, to conclude, you are seeing the expected behaviour.

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Hope this helps,

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As far as I understood the SSL Cache Timeout is only interested in when the SSL negotiation takes places and is not interested in activity. It's use is to increase the performance on the box, in reducing the amount of SSL renegotiations that take place but this is counter balanced by the decreased security of having the same session open for longer periods. So, to conclude, you are seeing the expected behaviour.

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