Advanced configuration with one local node and one external
Hi,
Trying to configure the following.
BigIP v10.x.
I have a NTP server placed on a DMZ, 10.0.0.1. I got a LB IP (VS) 10.0.0.2 with SNAT.
That part works just fine.
...
Hi Naiyang, I am not familiar with Informatica database connection details, but from reading some of their support forums, it appears that this is not possible. One comment referenced is that each Informatica connection is tied to a specific process, and each process within the application is responsible for opening and closing its own TCP connections to the database. It also appears that these connections are single instance, and do not support the concept of a connection pool. So I don't believe the application processes have the logic to retry a connection after/during a failure.
There is usually some user metadata that is created at connection/login time, and this metadata is not easily "moved" from one Node to another in the RAC cluster. Using an iRule, BIG-IP could "remap" a connection, but the metadata would not be moved, so its doubtful this would actually solve your issue completely.
If you do insert BIG-IP in front of the RAC cluster, you can use the monitoring system to determine the health/availability of each individual Node in the cluster. But this will only be helpful during the new connection process, to make sure all new connections land on a healthy Node.
Using the FAN monitoring script, you could extend the serverside callout Perl script to detect the Node failure, and then "restart" the Informatica process automarically, but I don't think it would help you recover an existing connection during a Node failure as you have described.
The RAC monitoring and serverside script examples are in the F5 RAC deployment guide:
This is gonna be your pool member. Test basic auth by accessing the webserver directly, without the BIG-IP.
Next you will setup an APM Access Policy of the type LTM-APM with SSO Credential Mapping and create an HTTP Basic SSO configuration.
With the HTTP Basic method of authentication, the SSO plug-in uses the cached user identity and sends the request with the authorization header. This header contains the Basic token and the base64-encoding of the user name, colon, and the password. Example from tcpdump:
Another simple form of SSO would be an HTTP forms-based SSO. With this method the BIG-IP will send the username and password as a HTTP form-based POST request to the application. Here is an example, you have to specify the parameter names for username, password and Start URI.
Your question inspired me to do some testing with passing APM session variables into sessionStorage. First I created an iRule to add the APM session variable into the sessionStorage of the webbrowser. And a simple webpage to query the browsers sessionStorage.
iRule:
when ACCESS_POLICY_COMPLETED {
set username [ACCESS::session data get session.logon.last.username]
set html "<!DOCTYPE html>"
append html "<body onload=\"location.reload()\"></body><script lang=\"javascript\">"
append html "if (typeof(Storage) !== \"undefined\") \{"
append html "sessionStorage.setItem(\"username\", \"$username\");"
append html "\}</script></html>"
ACCESS::respond 200 content $html
}
HTML to put on the webserver:
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<body>
<div id="result"></div>
<script>
if (typeof(Storage) !== "undefined") {
document.getElementById("result").innerHTML = "Username: " + sessionStorage.getItem("username");
} else {
document.getElementById("result").innerHTML = "Sorry, your browser does not support Web Storage...";
}
</script>
</body>
</html>
Here you can see the username is put into the browsers sessionStorage.
Like always with the F5 BIG-IP, there is more than one way to do it. For example, you could also use HTTP Headers to pass information from APM to the web application. See:
K74392192: How to insert APM Variables in backend headers to the application server
You guys are legends, very keen to play around with your suggestions next week at work. This topic might even be a good one to write a full article with the various ways to do this
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Does f5 have a solution that can allow us to avoid such restart while automaticall reconnect for the app?
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Does f5 have a solution that can allow us to avoid such restart while automaticall reconnect for the app?
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Thanks
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Hi Naiyang, I am not familiar with Informatica database connection details, but from reading some of their support forums, it appears that this is not possible. One comment referenced is that each Informatica connection is tied to a specific process, and each process within the application is responsible for opening and closing its own TCP connections to the database. It also appears that these connections are single instance, and do not support the concept of a connection pool. So I don't believe the application processes have the logic to retry a connection after/during a failure.
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There is usually some user metadata that is created at connection/login time, and this metadata is not easily \"moved\" from one Node to another in the RAC cluster. Using an iRule, BIG-IP could \"remap\" a connection, but the metadata would not be moved, so its doubtful this would actually solve your issue completely.
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If you do insert BIG-IP in front of the RAC cluster, you can use the monitoring system to determine the health/availability of each individual Node in the cluster. But this will only be helpful during the new connection process, to make sure all new connections land on a healthy Node.
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Using the FAN monitoring script, you could extend the serverside callout Perl script to detect the Node failure, and then \"restart\" the Informatica process automarically, but I don't think it would help you recover an existing connection during a Node failure as you have described.
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The RAC monitoring and serverside script examples are in the F5 RAC deployment guide:
Good Luck, and let us know if you have any success.
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Hi Naiyang, I am not familiar with Informatica database connection details, but from reading some of their support forums, it appears that this is not possible. One comment referenced is that each Informatica connection is tied to a specific process, and each process within the application is responsible for opening and closing its own TCP connections to the database. It also appears that these connections are single instance, and do not support the concept of a connection pool. So I don't believe the application processes have the logic to retry a connection after/during a failure.
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There is usually some user metadata that is created at connection/login time, and this metadata is not easily \"moved\" from one Node to another in the RAC cluster. Using an iRule, BIG-IP could \"remap\" a connection, but the metadata would not be moved, so its doubtful this would actually solve your issue completely.
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If you do insert BIG-IP in front of the RAC cluster, you can use the monitoring system to determine the health/availability of each individual Node in the cluster. But this will only be helpful during the new connection process, to make sure all new connections land on a healthy Node.
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Using the FAN monitoring script, you could extend the serverside callout Perl script to detect the Node failure, and then \"restart\" the Informatica process automarically, but I don't think it would help you recover an existing connection during a Node failure as you have described.
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The RAC monitoring and serverside script examples are in the F5 RAC deployment guide:
Good Luck, and let us know if you have any success.
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