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Sep 08, 2022

BigIP VE KVM VM network interface mapping into tmsh Interfaces logic

I could not find any other KB, F5 document or ticket with an answer for this very basic question about how BigIP VE maps its OS level to tmsh Interface convention.

As reference, a regular Linux like RedHat 7, uses "Consistent Network Device Naming", which in general create the interface name at OS level as ens<PCI slot>p<port number>.

So, for example, in a HP server with slot1 network card and 2 ports, would have its naming mapped into ens1p0 and ens1p1. It will always map this way and never change its order, unless this card is moved to another slot!

But apparently BigIP VE uses the very old ethX network naming convention, exactly abandon to avoid during boots the interfaces to be mapped into different order.

Giving a quick look into BigIP VE OS level, I see udev scripts under /lib/udev/rules.d/ but I cannot be sure on all its logic.

My problem, and probably from many other people, is to understand how BigIP Ve maps its ethX order of the KVM setup. In my case, I have Guest configured in sequence with hostdev SRIOV devices in sequence, or PCI sot 7, then PCI slot 8 and so on, as well the MAC addresses also in sequence.

But when I see BigIP VE OS, I see it mapping my first hostdev, or PCI slot 7, as eth7, which then maps ok into interface 1.7. But then my interface PCI slot 8, as eth9, which again maps into interface 1.9, and then other 8 interfaces mapped without any reasonable order.

I see here two main problems:

1) In a disaster recover that I have to recover eventually this system, we will never know what interface order the reinstalled BigIP VE will follow, so I cannot recover any backup on this box

2) Any HOST upgrade, like KVM, could also potentially remap interfaces, again, breaking completly BigIp deployment

Besides this is a very ugly solution. I have a pair of the exact same HOST HW, with the same Guest setup, or the PCI hostdev allocations, and each one had the network mappings compltly different on BigIP VE.

I would like to understand how BigIP VE maps the Guest HW interfaces into its ethx so I can try to control and make it follow the order I want, like following PCI ID order.

See my actual configuration below:

[root@localhost:Active:Standalone] config # lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440FX - 82441FX PMC [Natoma] (rev 02)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371SB PIIX3 ISA [Natoma/Triton II]
00:01.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371SB PIIX3 IDE [Natoma/Triton II]
00:01.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Red Hat, Inc. QXL paravirtual graphic card (rev 04)
00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:04.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:04.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:04.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
00:04.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:05.0 Communication controller: Red Hat, Inc Virtio console
00:06.0 SCSI storage controller: Red Hat, Inc Virtio block device
00:07.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev 20) ->Expected to be MGMT
00:08.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme II BCM57810 10 Gigabit Ethernet Virtual Function->Expected to be eth0
00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme II BCM57810 10 Gigabit Ethernet Virtual Function->Expected to be eth1
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme II BCM57810 10 Gigabit Ethernet Virtual Function->Expected to be eth2
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme II BCM57810 10 Gigabit Ethernet Virtual Function->Expected to be eth3
00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I350 Ethernet Controller Virtual Function (rev 01)->Expected to be eth5
00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I350 Ethernet Controller Virtual Function (rev 01)->Expected to be eth6
00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I350 Ethernet Controller Virtual Function (rev 01)->Expected to be eth7
00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I350 Ethernet Controller Virtual Function (rev 01)->Expected to be eth8
00:10.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I350 Ethernet Controller Virtual Function (rev 01)->Expected to be eth9
00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I350 Ethernet Controller Virtual Function (rev 01)->Expected to be eth10
00:13.0 Unclassified device [00ff]: Red Hat, Inc Virtio memory balloon

2: eth6: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,ALLMULTI> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 52:54:00:6d:90:0a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: eth1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,ALLMULTI> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 52:54:00:6d:90:0c brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
4: eth2: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,ALLMULTI> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 52:54:00:6d:90:0d brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
5: eth3: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,ALLMULTI> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 52:54:00:6d:90:0f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
6: eth4: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,ALLMULTI> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 52:54:00:6d:90:11 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
7: eth5: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,ALLMULTI> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 52:54:00:6d:90:13 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
8: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast master mgmt state UP qlen 1000
link/ether 52:54:00:89:3c:de brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
--
9: eth7: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,ALLMULTI,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP qlen 1000
link/ether 52:54:00:6d:90:02 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
--
10: eth8: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,ALLMULTI> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 52:54:00:6d:90:04 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
11: eth9: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,ALLMULTI,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP qlen 1000
link/ether 52:54:00:6d:90:06 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
--
12: eth10: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,ALLMULTI> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 52:54:00:6d:90:08 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

See the PCI slot sequence as the MAC 52:54:00:6d:90:02 and incrementing by 2. So for example, the eth10 is my PCI slot c.

My search here is:

1) Understand how BigIP VE maps the physical interface into ethx, or indirectly into tmsh interfaces?

2) If editing files like /etc/ethmap, or another procedure, I can force the ordering of these interface mapping?

I have a support ticket open but so far no proper updates on it.

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Configured VIP on port 22 with SNAT automap, and the servers are listening on port 5022. Also using L4 profile and source_addr.

 

 

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When I attempt to login I get the \"fingerprint ssh-rsa\" but after that I get \"authentication failed\".

 

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Is there some other parameter I'm missing thats preventing this from working??

 

 

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Thanks for the help!

 

 

 

","body@stringLength":"727","rawBody":"I've seen a few post regarding some of the roadblocks with getting FTP over SSH to work. But I have reviewed my config and having issues.

 

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Configured VIP on port 22 with SNAT automap, and the servers are listening on port 5022. Also using L4 profile and source_addr.

 

 

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When I attempt to login I get the \"fingerprint ssh-rsa\" but after that I get \"authentication failed\".

 

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Is there some other parameter I'm missing thats preventing this from working??

 

 

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Thanks for the help!

 

 

 

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Have you done a packet capture to check how things look? Auth failed is coming right away, or after you try logging in?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"213","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2011-02-08T05:16:01.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2011-02-08T05:16:01.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":491},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:46619":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:46619","uid":46619,"login":"wtwagon_99154","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2008-03-04T00:00:00.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.f5.com/t5/s/zihoc95639/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg?time=0"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:zihoc95639/user:46619"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:26886":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:26886","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:26886":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:46619"},"id":"message:26886","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:26884/message:26886","revisionNum":1,"uid":26886,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:26884"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:26884"},"subject":"Re: FTP over SSH Issue","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:26886"},"body":"We currently do STFP in our environment.

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Server listens on TCP 2222

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VIP is configured for SSH

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We used Standard with no properties modified at all. (Default TCP profile -- not FTP) We also did not need SNAT Automap, but I'm not sure if your server has the F5 as the default gateway or not.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"233","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2011-02-08T05:25:40.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2011-02-08T05:25:40.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":490},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:26887":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:26887","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:26887":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:258607"},"id":"message:26887","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:26884/message:26887","revisionNum":1,"uid":26887,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:26884"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:26884"},"subject":"Re: FTP over SSH Issue","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:26887"},"body":"Posted By wtwagon on 02/08/2011 06:25 AM\n

 

\nWe currently do STFP in our environment.

 

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Server listens on TCP 2222

 

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VIP is configured for SSH

 

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We used Standard with no properties modified at all. (Default TCP profile -- not FTP) We also did not need SNAT Automap, but I'm not sure if your server has the F5 as the default gateway or not.\n\n

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Thanks for responding! I unfortunately don't have access to the boxes on which I'd configured SFTP. So basically tcp/22 worked fine for you.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"238","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2011-02-08T05:37:43.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2011-02-08T05:37:43.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":489},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:26888":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:26888","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:26888":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:46619"},"id":"message:26888","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:26884/message:26888","revisionNum":1,"uid":26888,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:26884"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:26884"},"subject":"Re: FTP over SSH Issue","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:26888"},"body":"Yes, no issues whatsoever.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"26","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2011-02-08T05:39:07.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2011-02-08T05:39:07.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":489},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:26889":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:26889","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:26889":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:101892"},"id":"message:26889","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:26884/message:26889","revisionNum":1,"uid":26889,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:26884"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:26884"},"subject":"Re: FTP over SSH Issue","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:26889"},"body":"I noticied that I don't see any trace of the SNAT address with the tcpdump.. only the self ip during the failed login. and thats with SNAT automap enabled.

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So it sounds like if we do not use SNAT, the server must point directly to the self ip ??

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17:48:56.986258 IP x.22.169.241.1028 > x.36.172.x.ssh: S 758488788:758488788(0) win 65535

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17:48:56.986703 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.1028: S 1025121854:1025121854(0) ack 758488789 win 5840

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17:48:57.043374 IP x.22.169.241.1028 > x.36.172.x.ssh: . ack 1 win 32768

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17:48:57.047688 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.1028: P 1:21(20) ack 1 win 46

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17:48:57.103653 IP x.22.169.241.1028 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 1:44(43) ack 21 win 32767

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17:48:57.103931 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.1028: . ack 44 win 46

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17:48:57.104957 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.1028: P 21:725(704) ack 44 win 46

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17:48:57.109600 IP x.22.169.241.1028 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 44:556(512) ack 21 win 32767

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17:48:57.109604 IP x.22.169.241.1028 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 556:684(128) ack 21 win 32767

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17:48:57.109933 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.1028: . ack 684 win 63

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17:48:57.165816 IP x.22.169.241.1028 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 684:700(16) ack 725 win 32762

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17:48:57.167874 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.1028: P 725:1005(280) ack 700 win 63

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17:48:57.256547 IP x.22.169.241.1028 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 700:972(272) ack 1005 win 32760

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17:48:57.263654 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.1028: P 1005:1853(848) ack 972 win 71

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17:48:57.355642 IP x.22.169.241.1028 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 972:988(16) ack 1853 win 32768

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17:48:57.355650 IP x.22.169.241.1028 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 988:1040(52) ack 1853 win 32768

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17:48:57.355870 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.1028: . ack 1040 win 71

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17:48:57.355928 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.1028: P 1853:1905(52) ack 1040 win 71

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17:48:57.415586 IP x.22.169.241.1028 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 1040:1108(68) ack 1905 win 32767

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17:48:57.419579 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.1028: P 1905:1989(84) ack 1108 win 71

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17:48:57.482899 IP x.22.169.241.1028 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 1108:1404(296) ack 1989 win 32766

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17:48:57.523566 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.1028: . ack 1404 win 80

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17:49:00.070659 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.1028: P 1989:2073(84) ack 1404 win 80

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17:49:00.209323 IP x.22.169.241.1028 > x.36.172.x.ssh: R 1404:1404(0) ack 2073 win 0

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17:49:14.280379 IP x.22.169.241.iad3 > x.36.172.x.ssh: S 4106293492:4106293492(0) win 65535

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17:49:14.280606 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.iad3: S 3350075743:3350075743(0) ack 4106293493 win 5840

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17:49:14.337254 IP x.22.169.241.iad3 > x.36.172.x.ssh: . ack 1 win 32768

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17:49:14.341342 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.iad3: P 1:21(20) ack 1 win 46

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17:49:14.399249 IP x.22.169.241.iad3 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 1:44(43) ack 21 win 32767

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17:49:14.399902 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.iad3: . ack 44 win 46

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17:49:14.400284 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.iad3: P 21:725(704) ack 44 win 46

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17:49:14.403021 IP x.22.169.241.iad3 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 44:556(512) ack 21 win 32767

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17:49:14.403026 IP x.22.169.241.iad3 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 556:684(128) ack 21 win 32767

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17:49:14.403247 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.iad3: . ack 684 win 63

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17:49:14.457271 IP x.22.169.241.iad3 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 684:700(16) ack 725 win 32762

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17:49:14.459805 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.iad3: P 725:1005(280) ack 700 win 63

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17:49:14.548367 IP x.22.169.241.iad3 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 700:972(272) ack 1005 win 32760

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17:49:14.555198 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.iad3: P 1005:1853(848) ack 972 win 71

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17:49:14.746744 IP x.22.169.241.iad3 > x.36.172.x.ssh: . ack 1853 win 32768

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17:49:28.156578 IP x.22.169.241.iad3 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 972:988(16) ack 1853 win 32768

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17:49:28.157029 IP x.22.169.241.iad3 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 988:1040(52) ack 1853 win 32768

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17:49:28.157251 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.iad3: . ack 1040 win 71

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17:49:28.157255 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.iad3: P 1853:1905(52) ack 1040 win 71

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17:49:28.216186 IP x.22.169.241.iad3 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 1040:1108(68) ack 1905 win 32767

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17:49:28.219039 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.iad3: P 1905:1989(84) ack 1108 win 71

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17:49:28.356048 IP x.22.169.241.iad3 > x.36.172.x.ssh: P 1108:1404(296) ack 1989 win 32766

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17:49:28.396201 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.iad3: . ack 1404 win 80

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17:49:29.760217 IP x.36.172.x.ssh > x.22.169.241.iad3: P 1989:2073(84) ack 1404 win 80

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17:49:30.033536 IP x.22.169.241.iad3 > x.36.172.x.ssh: . ack 2073 win 32766

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17:49:30.128949 IP x.22.169.241.iad3 > x.36.172.x.ssh: R 1404:1404(0) ack 2073 win 0

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Currently have one SNAT address configured with this setup.

 

 

 

 

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Aaron","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2011-02-08T06:25:11.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2011-02-08T06:25:11.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":489},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:26893":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:26893","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:26893":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:101892"},"id":"message:26893","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:26884/message:26893","revisionNum":1,"uid":26893,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:26884"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:26884"},"subject":"Re: FTP over SSH Issue","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:26893"},"body":"

Gotcha...

 

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I will make that change this afternoon.

 

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Thanks Guys.. I'll keep you posted.

 

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Added the SNAT pool to the VIP gives the same results ... authenitication failure.

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