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Oct 26, 2012

Any incoming request (not just the initial connection)

One of the software guys has presented the following to me. Any help would be much appreciated! "I think part of what might be going on with this is that HTTP 1.1 does not require a new c...

Kevin_Stewart

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Feb 13, 2024

To be clear, there are generally two options for allowing mutual TLS to pass through the BIG-IP, with client/server SSL profiles applied:

ProxySSL - as described above. But note, ProxySSL can only work with non-perfect-forward-secret handshakes. That means it only works with RSA handshakes, and never with ECC, DHE, ECDHE, ECDH, etc. And since RSA handshakes have been mostly deprecated by all modern browsers, this option isn't terribly useful unless you control the browsers and are willing to force significantly weaker encryption.
Client Cert Constrained Delegation (C3D) - https://my.f5.com/manage/s/article/K14065425. This is the modern way to handle the requested scenario, and works with TLS1.3 and below with modern ciphers.

awan_m

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Feb 14, 2024

C3D method would require provisioning / licensing of ssl Orchestrator - which i do not have licensed on my F5

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This is my limited understanding of CARP:

It is a one-way hash-like algorithm that matches on a "source" and sends it to a "destination". As long as the "source" remains the same, the "destination" will be the same and it is for this reason that it doesn't store any persistence value on the F5 locally.

Now, using the above understanding, as long as the "source" values are diverse at any instance, we should have a better distribution of traffic. I think, if you have many pool members, it will increase the chances of the traffic being evenly distributed.

Least Connections (Member) is my favorite and default algorithm to implement by default. If it doesn't help, then explore other options. I don't think CARP/Hash is tied to a specific load balancing algorithm.

No, you don't have to add persistence records.

Testing - depends on the application, what you are trying to test and of course the resources you possess. If you have a great LT/Stage environment, it is easier to test or you can spin up a bunch of cloud servers in different DC from one of the public cloud providers to see if the load is evenly distributed.

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Hello - i have the following setup

Virtual server on the F5 without Client SSL or server ssl profiles - which passes web traffic to the backend iis server.

the IIS server is configured to require the client certificate for Client Authentication.

Question - if i configure client ssl and server ssl on F5 with Proxy ssl enabled - will the F5 pass the clients certificate to the backend IIS server?

Thanks

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C3D method would require provisioning / licensing of ssl Orchestrator - which i do not have licensed on my F5

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C3D method would require provisioning / licensing of ssl Orchestrator - which i do not have licensed on my F5

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Definitely not. C3D is a function of LTM.

SSLO is not needed to use C3D.

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