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Apr 18, 2024
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Chrome V 124+ on MacOS - Virtual Server Access Issue

(editors note: this is not just MacOS - appears to be all Chrome browsers regardless of OS) It appears that the latest version of Google Chrome (version 124) on  MacOS (ed. any OS) has broken the ...
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    candc
    Apr 22, 2024

    Brad_Baker  / LiefZimmerman  / Eric_Chen  / Stan_PIRON_F5 / Stanislas_Piro2 

    I have patched my copy of the original iRule with what I think is a working fix, but I would love if someone in the community could validate it, because my knowledge of the intricacies of the TLS packet is not strong.

    Essentially, I have replaced this if check in the original...

    # If valid TLS 1.X CLIENT_HELLO handshake packet
    if { [binary scan $payload cH4Scx3H4x32c tls_record_content_type tls_version tls_recordlen tls_handshake_action tls_handshake_version tls_handshake_sessidlen] == 6 && \
        ($tls_record_content_type == 22) && \
        ([string match {030[1-3]} $tls_version]) && \
        ($tls_handshake_action == 1) && \
        ($payloadlen == $tls_recordlen+5)} {

    ...with this block, which is intended to determine whether the reported TLS record length is longer than the payload we have and, if so, collect more packets until we have enough:

    # Keep collecting if CLIENT_HELLO messages that span more than one packet...
    if {![info exists payloadscan]} {
        set payloadscan [binary scan $payload cH4Scx3H4x32c tls_record_content_type tls_version tls_recordlen tls_handshake_action \
                                                            tls_handshake_version tls_handshake_sessidlen]
    }
    if {($payloadscan == 6)} {
        if {($tls_recordlen < 0 || $tls_recordlen > 16389)} {  # if we are asked to collect more than we will handle, bail...
            log local0.warn "[IP::remote_addr] : parsed TLS record length ${tls_recordlen} outside of handled length (0..16389)"
            reject
            return
        } elseif {($payloadlen < $tls_recordlen+5)} {          # if we have not collected enough yet, collect some more
            TCP::collect [expr {$tls_recordlen+5 - $payloadlen}]
            return
        }
    }
    
    # If valid TLS 1.X CLIENT_HELLO handshake packet
    if {($payloadscan == 6) && \
        ($tls_record_content_type == 22) && \
        ([string match {030[1-3]} $tls_version]) && \
        ($tls_handshake_action == 1) && \
        ($payloadlen == $tls_recordlen+5)} {

    This has allowed the rest of the original logic to capture the SNI server name and my services to resume operation.

    However, one new thing of note, is that the resulting values in $tls_handshake_preferred_version now include an extra value.  If I log this value, I can see...

    • Firefox returns 0304 0303 0302 0301
    • Chrome/Edge with --ssl-version-max=tls1.2 return 0303 only
    • Chrome/Edge v124 return xAxA 0304 0303

     

    The xAxA value changes every time -- so far, I have seen 1A1A, 7A7A, 8A8A, DADA and FAFA.  (I do not see a 7Fxy, as indicated in the switch statement).

    I am now wondering if this is just an implementation detail of the new Chrome TLS packet, or if I/we are now reading the preferred values from the wrong position in the payload.

    Is anyone able to verify the above?

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(editors note: this is not just MacOS - appears to be all Chrome browsers regardless of OS)

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It appears that the latest version of Google Chrome (version 124) on MacOS (ed. any OS) has broken the above code. With debugging turned on, we get this when a MacOS client accesses a virtual server with this rule:

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No SSL/TLS protocol detected ; connection is rejected (0x0000)

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Can anyone else confirm this? Any idea how to fix it?  

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(Editors Note: This forum post was created via a comment on the OG Article written by here:
How to use SNI Routing with BIG-IP.
That article contains 'the above code' and 'the rule' referenced here)

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(editors note: this is not just MacOS - appears to be all Chrome browsers regardless of OS)

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It appears that the latest version of Google Chrome (version 124) on MacOS (ed. any OS) has broken the above code. With debugging turned on, we get this when a MacOS client accesses a virtual server with this rule:

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No SSL/TLS protocol detected ; connection is rejected (0x0000)

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Can anyone else confirm this? Any idea how to fix it? Stanislas_Piro2 

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(Editors Note: This forum post was created via a comment on the OG Article written by Eric_Chen here:
How to use SNI Routing with BIG-IP.
That article contains 'the above code' and 'the rule' referenced here)

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Related?
Some ​Google Chrome users report having issues connecting to websites, servers, and firewalls after Chrome 124 was released with the new quantum-resistant X25519Kyber768 encapsulation mechanism enabled by default.
These errors are not caused by a bug in Google Chrome but instead caused by web servers failing to properly implement Transport Layer Security (TLS) and not being able to handle larger ClientHello messages for post-quantum cryptography.
Reference:
Google Chrome's new post-quantum cryptography may break TLS connections (bleepingcomputer.com)

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Related?
Some ​Google Chrome users report having issues connecting to websites, servers, and firewalls after Chrome 124 was released with the new quantum-resistant X25519Kyber768 encapsulation mechanism enabled by default.
These errors are not caused by a bug in Google Chrome but instead caused by web servers failing to properly implement Transport Layer Security (TLS) and not being able to handle larger ClientHello messages for post-quantum cryptography.
Reference:
Google Chrome's new post-quantum cryptography may break TLS connections (bleepingcomputer.com)

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Brad_Baker  / LiefZimmerman  / Eric_Chen  / Stan_PIRON_F5 / Stanislas_Piro2 

I have patched my copy of the original iRule with what I think is a working fix, but I would love if someone in the community could validate it, because my knowledge of the intricacies of the TLS packet is not strong.

Essentially, I have replaced this if check in the original...

# If valid TLS 1.X CLIENT_HELLO handshake packet\nif { [binary scan $payload cH4Scx3H4x32c tls_record_content_type tls_version tls_recordlen tls_handshake_action tls_handshake_version tls_handshake_sessidlen] == 6 && \\\n    ($tls_record_content_type == 22) && \\\n    ([string match {030[1-3]} $tls_version]) && \\\n    ($tls_handshake_action == 1) && \\\n    ($payloadlen == $tls_recordlen+5)} {

...with this block, which is intended to determine whether the reported TLS record length is longer than the payload we have and, if so, collect more packets until we have enough:

# Keep collecting if CLIENT_HELLO messages that span more than one packet...\nif {![info exists payloadscan]} {\n    set payloadscan [binary scan $payload cH4Scx3H4x32c tls_record_content_type tls_version tls_recordlen tls_handshake_action \\\n                                                        tls_handshake_version tls_handshake_sessidlen]\n}\nif {($payloadscan == 6)} {\n    if {($tls_recordlen < 0 || $tls_recordlen > 16389)} {  # if we are asked to collect more than we will handle, bail...\n        log local0.warn \"[IP::remote_addr] : parsed TLS record length ${tls_recordlen} outside of handled length (0..16389)\"\n        reject\n        return\n    } elseif {($payloadlen < $tls_recordlen+5)} {          # if we have not collected enough yet, collect some more\n        TCP::collect [expr {$tls_recordlen+5 - $payloadlen}]\n        return\n    }\n}\n\n# If valid TLS 1.X CLIENT_HELLO handshake packet\nif {($payloadscan == 6) && \\\n    ($tls_record_content_type == 22) && \\\n    ([string match {030[1-3]} $tls_version]) && \\\n    ($tls_handshake_action == 1) && \\\n    ($payloadlen == $tls_recordlen+5)} {

This has allowed the rest of the original logic to capture the SNI server name and my services to resume operation.

However, one new thing of note, is that the resulting values in $tls_handshake_preferred_version now include an extra value.  If I log this value, I can see...

 

The xAxA value changes every time -- so far, I have seen 1A1A, 7A7A, 8A8A, DADA and FAFA.  (I do not see a 7Fxy, as indicated in the switch statement).

I am now wondering if this is just an implementation detail of the new Chrome TLS packet, or if I/we are now reading the preferred values from the wrong position in the payload.

Is anyone able to verify the above?

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Brad_Baker 

\n

I can't speak to the issue technically but I am interested in whether you get a resolution here?
If Eric_Chen or Stan_PIRON_F5 can't help right away (or at all?) perhaps a new post in the Technical Forum is in order. 

\n

I may even be able to move it automagically for you if you like

\n

 

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\n

I can't speak to the issue technically but I am interested in whether you get a resolution here?
If or can't help right away (or at all?) perhaps a new post in the Technical Forum is in order. 

\n

I may even be able to move it automagically for you if you like

\n

 

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I have not heard from anyone so far. It seems this issue may be greater in scope than I realized. Its not just chrome 124 on Mac apparently its impacting Google Chrome 124, Google Chrome 125 and Google Chrome 126 on Windows, Linux, and Mac, Google Chrome 125/126 are pre-release though. 

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I have not heard from anyone so far. It seems this issue may be greater in scope than I realized. Its not just chrome 124 on Mac apparently its impacting Google Chrome 124, Google Chrome 125 and Google Chrome 126 on Windows, Linux, and Mac, Google Chrome 125/126 are pre-release though. 

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