Asymmetric Hardware Requiring Asymmetric View Pool Entitlements
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Until I got to the end of your post, I had no idea you are talking about load balancer.
Been generic as possible, you need something to differentiate the users, like URL, cookie, etc...
After you are able to classify the users, you can then just select wich pool you want to go.
F5 has LTM policy, that is easier for you if you don't fill comfortable with iRules.
Also, iRules where you can write some code to perform the logic you need.
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Hardware Requiring Asymmetric View Pool Entitlements","id":"message:192725","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":1,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:396493"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:192725"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:192725"},"body@stripHtml({\"truncateLength\":200})":" Hi Guys! \n Need some thoughts on a View farm design.\nGivens:\nHorizon 7 Advanced Licensing\nF5 BigIP x2 - Full alphabet soup license\nNVIDIA GRID Profiles on page 4 of vGPU User Guide \n Pod A \n...","body@stringLength":"4212","rawBody":"
Hi Guys!
\n
Need some thoughts on a View farm design.\nGivens:\nHorizon 7 Advanced Licensing\nF5 BigIP x2 - Full alphabet soup license\nNVIDIA GRID Profiles on page 4 of vGPU User Guide
\n
Pod A
\n
5x Cisco UCS B200
2.0Ghz, 2 sockets, 28 cores, 56 threads
512GB RAM
NetApp SAS backed
1x NVIDIA GRID M6 in vSGA Mode
\n
Pod B
\n
5x Cisco UCS C240
2.6Ghz, 2 sockets, 24 cores, 48 threads
512GB RAM
Micron PCIe Backed
2x NVIDIA GRID M10 in vGPU Mode 1GB per VM
\n
Pod C
\n
5x Cisco UCS C240
2.1Ghz, 2 sockets, 36 cores, 72 threads
512GB RAM
Micron PCIe Backed
2x NVIDIA GRID M10 in vGPU Mode 1GB per VM
\n
Pod D
\n
5x Cisco UCS C240
2.1Ghz, 2 sockets, 36 cores, 72 threads
512GB RAM
Micron PCIe Backed
2x NVIDIA GRID M10 in vGPU Mode 1GB per VM
\n
Pod X
\n
1x Cisco UCS B200
2.0Ghz, 2 sockets, 28 cores, 56 threads
512GB RAM
NetApp SAS backed
1x NVIDIA GRID M6 in vSGA Mode
1x Cisco UCS C240
1Ghz, 2 sockets, 36 cores, 72 threads
512GB RAM
Micron PCIe Backed
2x NVIDIA GRID M10 in vGPU Mode 1GB per VM
\n
Use Scenario:
\n
We have 3 types of users. \n
\n
General Purpose Students and Staff
\n
Need some GPU to make Win10 experience better
\n
Windows 10 Creator vGPU Backed @ 512MB \n
\n
Power User Students and Staff
\n
Using apps that require GPU - Adobe Apps, Games, Autocad, Etc.
\n
Windows 10 Creator vGPU Backed @ 1GB \n
\n
Generic Accounts
\n
These accounts are used for:
\n
Kinder -> Second Grade
\n
Library Search Kiosks
\n
Academic Testing Kiosks (for SBA and MAP computer based testing)
\n
School Board Meeting Kiosks
\n
Probably fine using vSGA mode graphics \n
\n
Problem:
\n
We have a bottleneck with vSphere and View Composer where it takes an inordinate amount of time to prep pools during login/logout storms or events that cause the environment to go sideways. \n
\n
Our thought is to break up into pods to mitigate having all 4 pods go down due to view component parts at the same time. This would also provide the side benefit of only impacting 25% of the environment at a time when going to do upgrades and even make it possible depending on the calendar to do the maintenance of the environment during the production day.
\n
Snag:
\n
Pod A is composed of vastly asymmetric hardware than what Pod’s B, C and D are composed of. Pod X is set aside so that we have a test bed for image development, upgrade testing and firmware testing with UCS. Hosts from Pod X could be added to Pod A or B if needed to help with increasing capacity.
\n
The idea would be to put users that have less need for GPU onto Pod A and run the NVIDIA M6 GRID Cards in vSGA mode to make Windows 10 more bearable due to the limitation of 16 VMs with a 512MB frame buffer if in vGPU mode.
\n
Then users who need vGPU would be routed to the C240 pods (Pod B, C and D) and could have a mixture of 512MB and 1GB profiles on the same host provided that like profiles map to the same card giving a theoretical max load of 64x 512MB VMs and 32x 1GB VMs per host and around 5GB RAM per VM if evenly distributed also understanding that in a running configuration that doesn’t allow for enough CPU threads per desktop.
\n
So at the end of this is what is the best method to use for having a user login to an entitled pool that doesn’t exist on all 5 pods that are deployed. Do you solve this with a Big-IP config, Cloud Pod Architecture or something else less complex (ie. Load balance Pod B, C and D. Have a separate DNS for Pods A and X.)?
Need some thoughts on a View farm design.\nGivens:\nHorizon 7 Advanced Licensing\nF5 BigIP x2 - Full alphabet soup license\nNVIDIA GRID Profiles on page 4 of vGPU User Guide
\n
Pod A
\n
5x Cisco UCS B200
2.0Ghz, 2 sockets, 28 cores, 56 threads
512GB RAM
NetApp SAS backed
1x NVIDIA GRID M6 in vSGA Mode
\n
Pod B
\n
5x Cisco UCS C240
2.6Ghz, 2 sockets, 24 cores, 48 threads
512GB RAM
Micron PCIe Backed
2x NVIDIA GRID M10 in vGPU Mode 1GB per VM
\n
Pod C
\n
5x Cisco UCS C240
2.1Ghz, 2 sockets, 36 cores, 72 threads
512GB RAM
Micron PCIe Backed
2x NVIDIA GRID M10 in vGPU Mode 1GB per VM
\n
Pod D
\n
5x Cisco UCS C240
2.1Ghz, 2 sockets, 36 cores, 72 threads
512GB RAM
Micron PCIe Backed
2x NVIDIA GRID M10 in vGPU Mode 1GB per VM
\n
Pod X
\n
1x Cisco UCS B200
2.0Ghz, 2 sockets, 28 cores, 56 threads
512GB RAM
NetApp SAS backed
1x NVIDIA GRID M6 in vSGA Mode
1x Cisco UCS C240
1Ghz, 2 sockets, 36 cores, 72 threads
512GB RAM
Micron PCIe Backed
2x NVIDIA GRID M10 in vGPU Mode 1GB per VM
\n
Use Scenario:
\n
We have 3 types of users. \n
\n
General Purpose Students and Staff
\n
Need some GPU to make Win10 experience better
\n
Windows 10 Creator vGPU Backed @ 512MB \n
\n
Power User Students and Staff
\n
Using apps that require GPU - Adobe Apps, Games, Autocad, Etc.
\n
Windows 10 Creator vGPU Backed @ 1GB \n
\n
Generic Accounts
\n
These accounts are used for:
\n
Kinder -> Second Grade
\n
Library Search Kiosks
\n
Academic Testing Kiosks (for SBA and MAP computer based testing)
\n
School Board Meeting Kiosks
\n
Probably fine using vSGA mode graphics \n
\n
Problem:
\n
We have a bottleneck with vSphere and View Composer where it takes an inordinate amount of time to prep pools during login/logout storms or events that cause the environment to go sideways. \n
\n
Our thought is to break up into pods to mitigate having all 4 pods go down due to view component parts at the same time. This would also provide the side benefit of only impacting 25% of the environment at a time when going to do upgrades and even make it possible depending on the calendar to do the maintenance of the environment during the production day.
\n
Snag:
\n
Pod A is composed of vastly asymmetric hardware than what Pod’s B, C and D are composed of. Pod X is set aside so that we have a test bed for image development, upgrade testing and firmware testing with UCS. Hosts from Pod X could be added to Pod A or B if needed to help with increasing capacity.
\n
The idea would be to put users that have less need for GPU onto Pod A and run the NVIDIA M6 GRID Cards in vSGA mode to make Windows 10 more bearable due to the limitation of 16 VMs with a 512MB frame buffer if in vGPU mode.
\n
Then users who need vGPU would be routed to the C240 pods (Pod B, C and D) and could have a mixture of 512MB and 1GB profiles on the same host provided that like profiles map to the same card giving a theoretical max load of 64x 512MB VMs and 32x 1GB VMs per host and around 5GB RAM per VM if evenly distributed also understanding that in a running configuration that doesn’t allow for enough CPU threads per desktop.
\n
So at the end of this is what is the best method to use for having a user login to an entitled pool that doesn’t exist on all 5 pods that are deployed. Do you solve this with a Big-IP config, Cloud Pod Architecture or something else less complex (ie. Load balance Pod B, C and D. Have a separate DNS for Pods A and X.)?
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Until I got to the end of your post, I had no idea you are talking about load balancer.
\n
Been generic as possible, you need something to differentiate the users, like URL, cookie, etc...\nAfter you are able to classify the users, you can then just select wich pool you want to go.
\n
F5 has LTM policy, that is easier for you if you don't fill comfortable with iRules.\nAlso, iRules where you can write some code to perform the logic you need.
Until I got to the end of your post, I had no idea you are talking about load balancer.
\n
Been generic as possible, you need something to differentiate the users, like URL, cookie, etc...\nAfter you are able to classify the users, you can then just select wich pool you want to go.
\n
F5 has LTM policy, that is easier for you if you don't fill comfortable with iRules.\nAlso, iRules where you can write some code to perform the logic you need.
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