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VIP-targeting-VIP solution using Standard and performance L4 VS
- Sep 12, 2023
In that scenario since the standard virtual server is terminating TLS the traffic still all needs to be handled by the first tmm. The fastest path is to just let it do its job and forward the traffic.
Forwarding it to a second virtual server starts another handshake (w/ TCP) between two tmm’s where the second makes a load balancing decision, so essentially you’re adding unnecessary overhead by forwarding just to have a load balancing decision made at the second virtual server.
This is a good reference article. https://my.f5.com/manage/s/article/K8082#l4
The FPGA is in the dataplane on ingress and egress from the switch (iSeries for example) or is the network interface on rSeries. Therefore if the first tmm terminating TLS has to process the traffic, it's being released down to the FPGA for forwarding on egress already.
Hi mrege that's a good question. You can certainly use vip-to-vip to fan application traffic among different needs on backend virtuals, but once all that data is already in TMM, I'm not quite sure it would save CPU to push it back down to the hardware at that point, even if it could (which would need to be tested.) Also, you can certainly use an iRule, but a policy works as well and keeps logic in native objects:
ltm policy vip-to-vip {
controls { forwarding }
last-modified 2023-09-12:09:44:17
requires { http }
rules {
fwding-vip {
actions {
0 {
forward
select
virtual /Common/testapp-vip
}
}
}
}
status published
strategy first-match
}
- JRahmSep 12, 2023Admin
i'm asking internally if anyone else has insights
- Brandon_Sep 12, 2023Employee
In that scenario since the standard virtual server is terminating TLS the traffic still all needs to be handled by the first tmm. The fastest path is to just let it do its job and forward the traffic.
Forwarding it to a second virtual server starts another handshake (w/ TCP) between two tmm’s where the second makes a load balancing decision, so essentially you’re adding unnecessary overhead by forwarding just to have a load balancing decision made at the second virtual server.
This is a good reference article. https://my.f5.com/manage/s/article/K8082#l4
The FPGA is in the dataplane on ingress and egress from the switch (iSeries for example) or is the network interface on rSeries. Therefore if the first tmm terminating TLS has to process the traffic, it's being released down to the FPGA for forwarding on egress already.
- mregeSep 12, 2023Altocumulus
Brandon_ So essentially, the VIP-targetting-VIP solution would not work from standpoint of bringing CPU utilization down and processing in FPGA when clubbed with performance L4 VS
The usage of VIP-targetting-VIP solution would only work from functionality standpoint of application traffic redirection based on matching condition ?
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