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vCMP Host and Guest Communication

Hi All,   I'm having some difficulty with some pre-testing that I'm doing for a vCMP Host - Guest design and hoping somebody here could steer me in the right direction.   Basically, the deploym...
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Host and Guest Communication","id":"message:64753","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":2,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:57028"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:64753"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:64753"},"body@stripHtml({\"truncateLength\":200})":" Hi All,   \n I'm having some difficulty with some pre-testing that I'm doing for a vCMP Host - Guest design and hoping somebody here could steer me in the right direction.   \n Basically, the deploym...","body@stringLength":"2677","rawBody":"

Hi All,

 

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I'm having some difficulty with some pre-testing that I'm doing for a vCMP Host - Guest design and hoping somebody here could steer me in the right direction.

 

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Basically, the deployment is very restrictive in terms of isolation so for each environment (UAT/PPD/PRD) we have presentation, abstraction and database networks.

 

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Due to the restrictive nature of the deployment where each environment network needs to be firewalled off (L3 gateway for each subnet is the firewall), the only way I have found to achieve the isolation restrictions is to create 3 x RDs per administration partition referencing each environment and defining a unique RD default gateway for each subnet for each environment.

 

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What I'm wanting to do is some pre-testing to verify my configuration by creating a self IP on the vCMP host in each VLAN for each environment and verify that the strict isolation requirements are working and that I can ping from a specific RD on the guest to an IP address in a different network on the vCMP host.

 

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I can ping from the vCMP guest to each of the self IP addresses defined on the vCMP host, confirming that the VLANs are presented between vCMP host and guest.

 

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The problem is that I never get an echo reply back from the vCMP host when trying to ping outside of the local route domain subnet.

 

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What fails is pinging from route domain 8 to the vCMP host IP 192.168.9.1. If I tcpdump on the vCMP host, I see the echo request come in on the Presentation network interface on the vCMP host but never get a echo reply.

 

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Update: I'm guessing but I think my issue is that I'm trying to route through a self IP/floating IP. The only way this would work is if I had a forwarding VIP setup in the appropriate zones and that IP address was used as next hop right? I don't think this could work as vCMP host is dedicated to vCMP only and isn't running LTM. Therefore I cannot define a forward VIP and this testing is flawed. Can somebody please verify that my comment is correct?

 

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Would be hugely appreciated.

 

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Cheers,\nAndy.

 

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Hi All,

 

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I'm having some difficulty with some pre-testing that I'm doing for a vCMP Host - Guest design and hoping somebody here could steer me in the right direction.

 

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Basically, the deployment is very restrictive in terms of isolation so for each environment (UAT/PPD/PRD) we have presentation, abstraction and database networks.

 

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Due to the restrictive nature of the deployment where each environment network needs to be firewalled off (L3 gateway for each subnet is the firewall), the only way I have found to achieve the isolation restrictions is to create 3 x RDs per administration partition referencing each environment and defining a unique RD default gateway for each subnet for each environment.

 

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What I'm wanting to do is some pre-testing to verify my configuration by creating a self IP on the vCMP host in each VLAN for each environment and verify that the strict isolation requirements are working and that I can ping from a specific RD on the guest to an IP address in a different network on the vCMP host.

 

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I can ping from the vCMP guest to each of the self IP addresses defined on the vCMP host, confirming that the VLANs are presented between vCMP host and guest.

 

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The problem is that I never get an echo reply back from the vCMP host when trying to ping outside of the local route domain subnet.

 

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What fails is pinging from route domain 8 to the vCMP host IP 192.168.9.1. If I tcpdump on the vCMP host, I see the echo request come in on the Presentation network interface on the vCMP host but never get a echo reply.

 

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Update: I'm guessing but I think my issue is that I'm trying to route through a self IP/floating IP. The only way this would work is if I had a forwarding VIP setup in the appropriate zones and that IP address was used as next hop right? I don't think this could work as vCMP host is dedicated to vCMP only and isn't running LTM. Therefore I cannot define a forward VIP and this testing is flawed. Can somebody please verify that my comment is correct?

 

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Would be hugely appreciated.

 

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Cheers,\nAndy.

 

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You are correct. Though, with all that seqmentation -- why not seperate vcmp guests?

 

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You are correct. Though, with all that seqmentation -- why not seperate vcmp guests?

 

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Unfortunately I have a design constraint in which I have to make do with the existing b2100 blades purchased. We're migrating away from 4 software Linux load balancers (which are deployed single leg in each of the logical segments). The current deployment was simple to meet the isolation requirements as any traffic inter-network must pass through firewall to get to other segments. PRD is a separate guest so is much simpler but it's the second guest which consists of approx 7 non-prd environments that needed the segmentation. The additional complexity comes in as the environment merged so there is competing architectures (legacy corporate has a flat address space so single RD fits in nicely to existing way of doing things) but the merged environments follow the strict isolation requirement so I've been having a lot of fun figuring out the flows. I guess without having a dedicated guest per environment and no ability to scale up without new blades/compute being purchased, this is the only way to meet the requirement, if reachitecting isn't an option?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-11-22T07:27:03.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-11-22T07:27:03.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":388},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:64753/message:64755","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/tags/TagView/TagViewChip-1728320186000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/tags/TagView/TagViewChip-1728320186000","value":{"tagLabelName":"Tag name {tagName}"},"localOverride":false}}}},"page":"/forums/ForumMessagePage/ForumMessagePage","query":{"boardId":"technicalforum","messageSubject":"vcmp-host-and-guest-communication","messageId":"64753","replyId":"64754"},"buildId":"OKtI0OLKuXmERTJKBVqYX","runtimeConfig":{"buildInformationVisible":false,"logLevelApp":"info","logLevelMetrics":"info","openTelemetryClientEnabled":false,"openTelemetryConfigName":"f5","openTelemetryServiceVersion":"24.11.0","openTelemetryUniverse":"prod","openTelemetryCollector":"http://localhost:4318","openTelemetryRouteChangeAllowedTime":"5000","apolloDevToolsEnabled":false},"isFallback":false,"isExperimentalCompile":false,"dynamicIds":["./components/seo/QAPageSchema/QAPageSchema.tsx","./components/customComponent/CustomComponent/CustomComponent.tsx","./components/community/Navbar/NavbarWidget.tsx","./components/community/Breadcrumb/BreadcrumbWidget.tsx","./components/messages/TopicWithThreadedReplyListWidget/TopicWithThreadedReplyListWidget.tsx","./components/featured/content/FeaturedContentWidget/FeaturedContentWidget.tsx","./components/messages/MessageListForNodeByRecentActivityWidget/MessageListForNodeByRecentActivityWidget.tsx","./components/messages/RelatedContentWidget/RelatedContentWidget.tsx","./components/messages/MessageView/MessageViewStandard/MessageViewStandard.tsx","../shared/client/components/common/List/UnstyledList/UnstyledList.tsx","./components/messages/MessageView/MessageView.tsx","./components/messages/MessageView/MessageViewInline/MessageViewInline.tsx","../shared/client/components/common/Pager/PagerLoadMore/PagerLoadMore.tsx","../shared/client/components/common/List/UnwrappedList/UnwrappedList.tsx","./components/tags/TagView/TagView.tsx","./components/tags/TagView/TagViewChip/TagViewChip.tsx"],"appGip":true,"scriptLoader":[]}