I got a BIGIP LTM VE working after countless hours, however I still don't quite understand how come it works in terms of routing ... I hope some one can help me to understand the IP forwarding of this platform.
Here is my setup, all the VM are on a single ESX server with vswitch
I configured 192.168.1.1 as the selfip on 1.1 interface, and two web servers are using it as the default gateway, it is working, but how come it works ?
1. All the web servers and self IP are in 192.168.1.0/24 network
2. the virtual IP is in 10.0.0.0/24 network, there is no other route configured
3. the management IP is in 10.0.0.0/24 network, with a default route
When I send a HTTP request to the webserver, my source IP is not in any of the subnet that BIGIP is aware of, so I guess it needs a default route to return to me, but I didn't configure it anywhere, the only default route configuration is for the management port.
If all of the NICs are on the same subnet, you should be able to define a single VLAN and add the port(s) to the VLAN. You probably don't need to use multiple VM interfaces unless that's somehow adding resilience on the physical network.
On a normal LTM appliance, you wouldn't be able to define a virtual server on the management subnet. I assumed that would also be the case for the LTM virtual edition. I'd guess your scenario is working because TMM is using the management default route.
I would suggest defining the virtual servers on a switch port (vlan 52) and not using the management subnet. You can define a TMM route via the GUI under Networking >> Routes. For details on mgmt and TMM routing, you can check SOL
I modified my lab, now I have separate VLANs for internal, external and management, now my lab is broken if I access the virtual IP from another subnet other than the external VLAN.
I configured the default route, and now the routing table look like this:
[root@test-f5:Active] config bigpipe route show
ROUTE default inet
| VLAN External static
ROUTE 10.0.0.0/24
| VLAN External connected
ROUTE 127.1.1.0/24
| VLAN tmm0 connected
ROUTE 192.168.1.0/24
| VLAN Internal connected
ROUTE fe80::/64
| VLAN tmm0 connected
ROUTE fe80::%vlan4093/64
| VLAN External connected
ROUTE fe80::%vlan4094/64
| VLAN Internal connected
ROUTE ff02::/64
| VLAN tmm0 auto
ROUTE ff02::%vlan4093/64
| VLAN External auto
ROUTE ff02::%vlan4094/64
| VLAN Internal auto
if it is a Cisco router, I expect the default route should have a next-hop IP, so when it forwards the traffic, it knows where to forward to, in F5 routing table, it looks there is no next hop, only the VLAN, how can the F5 box knows the mac-address to encap the packet ?
Sorry if this question is too obvious, I am digging F5 from scratch, and have no background what so ever : -0
hmm, it looks it can work without any routing configured, I removed all the routing and only leave with connected interface, and I can still access the VIP from outside.
is this some kind of F5 magic ?
[root@test-f5:Active] config bigpipe route show
ROUTE 10.0.0.0/24
| VLAN External connected
ROUTE 127.1.1.0/24
| VLAN tmm0 connected
ROUTE 192.168.1.0/24
| VLAN Internal connected
ROUTE fe80::/64
| VLAN tmm0 connected
ROUTE fe80::%vlan4093/64
| VLAN External connected
ROUTE fe80::%vlan4094/64
| VLAN Internal connected
ROUTE ff02::/64
| VLAN tmm0 auto
ROUTE ff02::%vlan4093/64
| VLAN External auto
ROUTE ff02::%vlan4094/64
| VLAN Internal auto
there is no management route configured, but it seems still work.
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Hi,
Appreciate any help with my current issue.
We are going to migrate the customer's current PAYG to BYOL. Their setup is one standalone for testing and HA pair for production. I knew creating F5 HA pair in Azure is easy using publicly available templates (e.g., Github), but I don't think using the template will work for us. We need to migrate the PAYG instance to BYOL (meaning utilizing the sameinterfaces, IP addresses, and configuration) with minimum downtime, so I thought pairing the BYOL instance to the existing PAYG instance would do the job.
Question:
1. Is it possible to manually create HA pair in Azure without using the template? If this is possible, do we have guides on how to proceed with the configuration?
2. Is it possible to HA pair one PAYG instance and a BYOL instance since PAYG and BYOL are just licensing methods?
I need advice and guidance on this setup.
Thank you in advance for your responses.
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Hi,
Appreciate any help with my current issue.
We are going to migrate the customer's current PAYG to BYOL. Their setup is one standalone for testing and HA pair for production. I knew creating F5 HA pair in Azure is easy using publicly available templates (e.g., Github), but I don't think using the template will work for us. We need to migrate the PAYG instance to BYOL (meaning utilizing the sameinterfaces, IP addresses, and configuration) with minimum downtime, so I thought pairing the BYOL instance to the existing PAYG instance would do the job.
Question:
1. Is it possible to manually create HA pair in Azure without using the template? If this is possible, do we have guides on how to proceed with the configuration?
2. Is it possible to HA pair one PAYG instance and a BYOL instance since PAYG and BYOL are just licensing methods?
I need advice and guidance on this setup.
Thank you in advance for your responses.
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Hello,
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As per your post i give you some information please see blow and folow all details step by step.
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Migrating from PAYG to BYOL (Bring Your Own License) while maintaining the same interfaces, IP addresses, and configuration, along with minimizing downtime, can be a bit complex but achievable. Let's address your questions:
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Manually Creating HA Pair in Azure: Yes, it's possible to manually create an HA (High Availability) pair of F5 instances in Azure without using a template. While templates provide a streamlined process, manual setup gives you more control over customization. The high-level steps for manually setting up an F5 HA pair in Azure are as follows:
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a. Deploy VMs: Deploy two new VMs (BYOL) that will be part of the HA pair. These VMs should have the same configurations as your existing PAYG instance.
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b. Network Configuration: Configure network settings, including IP addresses, subnets, and virtual network configuration to match your existing setup.
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c. F5 Configuration: Install the F5 BIG-IP software on both VMs and configure them to work as an HA pair. This involves setting up synchronization between the instances and configuring the relevant load balancing and failover settings.
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d. Licensing: Apply your BYOL licenses to the new instances.
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e. Testing and Transition: Once the new HA pair is configured, you'll need to thoroughly test the setup to ensure it works as expected. Then, you can gradually transition traffic from the existing PAYG instance to the new BYOL HA pair. This could involve DNS changes, routing updates, or other methods depending on your network architecture.
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Mixing PAYG and BYOL Instances in an HA Pair: Technically, it is possible to mix PAYG and BYOL instances in an HA pair, but it might not be the most straightforward approach and might lead to licensing complexities. It's generally recommended to have consistency in licensing within an HA pair for simplicity and compliance reasons.
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Given your goal of minimizing downtime and maintaining the same configuration, I'd recommend focusing on migrating both instances to BYOL. This will provide a smoother and more predictable migration process.
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I hope my suggestion is work for you. If any query please tell me.
EDITED by Leslie_Hubertus to remove SEO spam edited into this post by the original poster. The original poster has been banned, and I'm leaving the message up only because there was a reply to it.
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I have doubts about creating HA with two different licensing methods (PAYG and BYOL). However, the client is expecting to maintain everything and simply change the license from PAYG to BYOL but we both know that this is not possible
Creating first the BYOL HA instance might create complexity since they will use the same set of interfaces, IP addresses, and other resources of their current F5 VE HA. This also means that I have to destroy their current setup just to utilize the same resources.
Also, do you have some sort of manual or guide on how to create HA in Azure manually?
Thank you so much.
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Hey Jim-1019 - it looks like the user used ChatGPT to create this reply for you, and then took the opportunity to insert SEO spam after they posted. I'll mention your post this in today's Community Highlights to boost visibility and hopefully get you the answer you actually need.
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Also, how should I use CFE in Azure? As I remember this is not a typical HA that uses gratuitous arp for MAC-IP update.
Thanks
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