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I have a F5-LTM sandwiched between ASAs and a CheckPoint firewall... Need route help!

I am trying to set up a complicated system of firewalls stacked on one another inside of a DMZ.     I have configured a CheckPoint as my outside (outside to the DMZ) firewall facing the public...
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Need route help!","id":"message:180088","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":12,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:377727"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:180088"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:180088"},"body@stripHtml({\"truncateLength\":200})":"I am trying to set up a complicated system of firewalls stacked on one another inside of a DMZ. \n   \n   I have configured a CheckPoint as my outside (outside to the DMZ) firewall facing the public...","body@stringLength":"1955","rawBody":"I am trying to set up a complicated system of firewalls stacked on one another inside of a DMZ.

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I have configured a CheckPoint as my outside (outside to the DMZ) firewall facing the public. The inside interface is plugged directly into one of the Ethernet ports on the F5. Also on the F5, I have another interface (on the same VLAN as the CheckPoint) plugged into a Cisco switch.

 

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From there I have two ASA 5520 devices plugged into the same switch and configured with DMZ VLAN IP addresses as their outside interface address. Their inside IP addresses are RFC 1918 and connect to a core 7606 router.

 

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My main question is, how do I route the F5 to talk to the ASAs, which I would like to load balance behind the F5?

 

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The CheckPoint communicates back and forth with the F5 and the Cisco Switch. The CheckPoint also communicates back and forth with the F5. The ASAs can both communicate with the Cisco switch, BUT the ASAs (both configured on the same VLAN) are unable to communicate with the F5. I have set the ASA device's gateway as the CheckPoint IP address as well as the F5 IP (separately) with no luck. I need routes back to the ASAs, but I am unclear on how to do that. There are a lot of options in creating routes.

 

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I have tried to keep this as simple as possible, however. I am running into complications. The F5 has been set up with a VLAN 115, self IP and two untagged physical interfaces, virtual server for the VIP of the ASAs, a pool for both ASA devices for load balancing, and no definite routes for connectivity.

 

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I have created a drawing of the network layout, but it will not upload to this page. I can send it to anyone that feels it would be helpful in assisting me.

 

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I have configured a CheckPoint as my outside (outside to the DMZ) firewall facing the public. The inside interface is plugged directly into one of the Ethernet ports on the F5. Also on the F5, I have another interface (on the same VLAN as the CheckPoint) plugged into a Cisco switch.

 

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From there I have two ASA 5520 devices plugged into the same switch and configured with DMZ VLAN IP addresses as their outside interface address. Their inside IP addresses are RFC 1918 and connect to a core 7606 router.

 

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My main question is, how do I route the F5 to talk to the ASAs, which I would like to load balance behind the F5?

 

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The CheckPoint communicates back and forth with the F5 and the Cisco Switch. The CheckPoint also communicates back and forth with the F5. The ASAs can both communicate with the Cisco switch, BUT the ASAs (both configured on the same VLAN) are unable to communicate with the F5. I have set the ASA device's gateway as the CheckPoint IP address as well as the F5 IP (separately) with no luck. I need routes back to the ASAs, but I am unclear on how to do that. There are a lot of options in creating routes.

 

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I have tried to keep this as simple as possible, however. I am running into complications. The F5 has been set up with a VLAN 115, self IP and two untagged physical interfaces, virtual server for the VIP of the ASAs, a pool for both ASA devices for load balancing, and no definite routes for connectivity.

 

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I have created a drawing of the network layout, but it will not upload to this page. I can send it to anyone that feels it would be helpful in assisting me.

 

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The ASA has to be in routed mode in order to seperate protected and unprotected networks. Our Core switch that sits behind the ASA is on a completely different VLAN and needs to be fenced off behind the DMZ.

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The ASAs will be set up as a bank of ASAs that the F5-LTM load balances in a round-robin configuration.

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Each of the ASAs are 5520s and cannot be configured like the 5505s in a transparent mode, and still accomplish the same goal. The ASAs are routers themselves. They are the last line of defence. before inbound traffic reaches our internal devices. The ASAs are configured for SSL VPN connectivity. Thus we need \"inside\" interface routes and \"outside\" interface (VLAN 115) routes.

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The F5 in this scenario will act like a router as well, taking inbound packets from the CheckPoint, load balancing the packets, sending them to one of the ASAs in a bank of ASAs and then to the Core switch. Outbound traffic is coming from the Core switch, through one of the ASAs and and then to the F5 where it then routes the packets to the CheckPoint and then out to the public.","body@stringLength":"1527","rawBody":"The problem is, the ASA is in routed mode (layer 3) and not transparent mode (layer 2). Although all of the devices in the configured DMZ are on the same subnet, they require routes to move traffic from one device to another. Especially between the ASA and the F5.

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The ASA has to be in routed mode in order to seperate protected and unprotected networks. Our Core switch that sits behind the ASA is on a completely different VLAN and needs to be fenced off behind the DMZ.

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The ASAs will be set up as a bank of ASAs that the F5-LTM load balances in a round-robin configuration.

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Each of the ASAs are 5520s and cannot be configured like the 5505s in a transparent mode, and still accomplish the same goal. The ASAs are routers themselves. They are the last line of defence. before inbound traffic reaches our internal devices. The ASAs are configured for SSL VPN connectivity. Thus we need \"inside\" interface routes and \"outside\" interface (VLAN 115) routes.

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The F5 in this scenario will act like a router as well, taking inbound packets from the CheckPoint, load balancing the packets, sending them to one of the ASAs in a bank of ASAs and then to the Core switch. 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