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RHendle_110546

Nimbostratus

Mar 15, 2010

Distributed SCOM Instance - Installing F5 Management Pack on a Management Server Only

We have a distributed SCOM instance where the components are installed across multiple servers.

•RMS clustered - 2 physical servers

•Database cluster – 2 physical servers

•Management servers – 3 virtual servers, 1 that is dedicated for SCOM connectors.

•Gateway Server – 1 virtual server

•Web / Reporting Server – 1 virtual server

Is there any reason why the F5 Management Pack setup needs to actually be executed on the RMS outside of importing the actual *.mp file? It would seem as though executing the setup on the management server that will be connecting to the F5 would be sufficient so long as the actual management pack is installed on to the RMS. If we were to installing the F5 connector on the RMS wouldn’t this mean that the RMS would be the server that connects to the F5?

We expect to utilize multiple SCOM Connectors and have allocated a management server solely to handle connectors such as the F5 management pack. Thanks for your feedback!

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Dave_Ruddell_79
Historic F5 Account
Mar 16, 2010
Setup on the RMS is doing 2 important things. First it imports the mp as you noticed. Second, it creates or upgrades our SQL database, which is vital to getting the F5 Monitoring Service to run on any management server.

The other reason you should run Setup on the RMS is to prevent potential error messages. Our management pack uses custom data sources which get loaded by Operations Manager's Health Service at start up. If these modules don't get loaded, there will most likely be errors in your SCOM event log.

Also, by default, we don't have the F5 Monitoring Service start on the RMS if there are other management servers in a SCOM deployment, but you could actually start the service and run discoveries and monitor F5 devices from the RMS as well.

To your last concern, the only server that connects to the F5 is the one that the device was discovered from. So if you have ManagementServer1 which discovers F51 and ManagementServer2 which discovers F52, the connector on MS1 will only connect to F51 and the same with MS2 and F52. This was done on purpose to increase performance across your whole deployment. So even though you have to run the F5 Management Pack Setup on the RMS, the RMS will not be directly connected to the F5 devices unless you use it to discover those devices to begin with.
RHendle_110546
Nimbostratus
Mar 17, 2010
Dave,

Thanks for taking to explain!

Rob

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The other reason you should run Setup on the RMS is to prevent potential error messages. Our management pack uses custom data sources which get loaded by Operations Manager's Health Service at start up. If these modules don't get loaded, there will most likely be errors in your SCOM event log.

Also, by default, we don't have the F5 Monitoring Service start on the RMS if there are other management servers in a SCOM deployment, but you could actually start the service and run discoveries and monitor F5 devices from the RMS as well.

To your last concern, the only server that connects to the F5 is the one that the device was discovered from. So if you have ManagementServer1 which discovers F51 and ManagementServer2 which discovers F52, the connector on MS1 will only connect to F51 and the same with MS2 and F52. This was done on purpose to increase performance across your whole deployment. So even though you have to run the F5 Management Pack Setup on the RMS, the RMS will not be directly connected to the F5 devices unless you use it to discover those devices to begin with.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2010-03-16T13:01:10.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2010-03-16T13:01:10.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":154},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:50002/message:50003","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:50004":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:50004","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:50004":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:17219"},"id":"message:50004","revisionNum":1,"uid":50004,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:50002"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:50002"},"subject":"Re: Distributed SCOM Instance - Installing F5 Management Pack on a Management Server Only","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:50004"},"body":"Dave,

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