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tub91
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Oct 18, 2022
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Client Authentication with certificate on one URI only

Hello,

I need your help figuring out how to troubleshoot a new implementation. We have a VIP exhibiting our service. The VIP has its own SSL client profile.

Behind this VIP is an IIS which has 5 websites configured.

We would need that only when one of these 5 websites is contacted the client is asked for a certificate to authenticate. If the authentication is successful then F5 performs the reverse proxy, otherwise it resets the connection.

For the other 4 websites, however, the client certificate must not be requested.

We tried to create an iRule to verify that the certificate is correct but our problem is that we don't want to change the VIP's SSL client profile by changing the client authentication setting. This setting must remain in "ignore" otherwise the certificate is required to access the other 4 websites.

How can we proceed? Is there a way to differentiate the scenarios and manage the certificate request through iRule?

From some research we have seen that perhaps it would be possible through an SSL Renegotiation in the iRule. Is there any other way? If not, how should iRule be done?

Thank you

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  • Kevin_Stewart's avatar
    Kevin_Stewart
    Oct 27, 2022

    Just to quickly follow up on this question, the answer depends on when. From an OSI perspective, by the time you've reached the HTTP uri, the TLS handshake is already done, so you really don't have any other option but to perform renegotiation. Since the client and BIG-IP have already established a TLS session (without cert auth), you basically have to tell the client to start a new TLS handshake, while you flip on the cert auth option. Even APM does this for things like On-Demand Cert Auth, that happen after initial TLS handshake and after the access policy has started.

    If you can get to the data you're looking for before the TLS handshake finishes, like looking at the SNI in the layer 4 TCP payload, then it would be possible to switch client SSL profiles (between auth and non-auth SSL profiles).

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  • mihaic's avatar
    mihaic
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    Oct 19, 2022

    I think this problem was already on the forums:

    https://community.f5.com/t5/technical-articles/selective-client-cert-authentication/ta-p/275555

     

    when CLIENTSSL_CLIENTCERT {
  HTTP::release
  if { [SSL::cert count] < 1 } {
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when HTTP_REQUEST {
  if { [matchclass [HTTP::uri] starts_with $::requires_client_cert] } {
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    • tub91's avatar
      tub91
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      Oct 21, 2022

      Hi mihaic 

      Thank you for your answer. However, we would like to avoid using SSL Renegotiation.

      Is there any way to do this through the APM?

      • iaine's avatar
        iaine
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        Oct 25, 2022

        Do your clients support SNI? If so, you could have two SSL profiles attached to your VIP. The default one would for your 4 websites and the SNI one would be for your site that requires Client Cert auth and so would have this option set to require. The default SSL profile would have Client Cert set to Ignore

        You could do this via APM I guess - if the requested HTTP Host equals the 5th site then you could enable APM and insert an On Demand Client Cert object

        SNI - https://support.f5.com/csp/article/K13452

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Hello,

I need your help figuring out how to troubleshoot a new implementation. We have a VIP exhibiting our service. The VIP has its own SSL client profile.

Behind this VIP is an IIS which has 5 websites configured.

We would need that only when one of these 5 websites is contacted the client is asked for a certificate to authenticate. If the authentication is successful then F5 performs the reverse proxy, otherwise it resets the connection.

For the other 4 websites, however, the client certificate must not be requested.

We tried to create an iRule to verify that the certificate is correct but our problem is that we don't want to change the VIP's SSL client profile by changing the client authentication setting. This setting must remain in \"ignore\" otherwise the certificate is required to access the other 4 websites.

How can we proceed? Is there a way to differentiate the scenarios and manage the certificate request through iRule?

From some research we have seen that perhaps it would be possible through an SSL Renegotiation in the iRule. Is there any other way? If not, how should iRule be done?

Thank you

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Hello,

I need your help figuring out how to troubleshoot a new implementation. We have a VIP exhibiting our service. The VIP has its own SSL client profile.

Behind this VIP is an IIS which has 5 websites configured.

We would need that only when one of these 5 websites is contacted the client is asked for a certificate to authenticate. If the authentication is successful then F5 performs the reverse proxy, otherwise it resets the connection.

For the other 4 websites, however, the client certificate must not be requested.

We tried to create an iRule to verify that the certificate is correct but our problem is that we don't want to change the VIP's SSL client profile by changing the client authentication setting. This setting must remain in \"ignore\" otherwise the certificate is required to access the other 4 websites.

How can we proceed? Is there a way to differentiate the scenarios and manage the certificate request through iRule?

From some research we have seen that perhaps it would be possible through an SSL Renegotiation in the iRule. Is there any other way? If not, how should iRule be done?

Thank you

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I think this problem was already on the forums:

https://community.f5.com/t5/technical-articles/selective-client-cert-authentication/ta-p/275555

 

when CLIENTSSL_CLIENTCERT {\n  HTTP::release\n  if { [SSL::cert count] < 1 } {\n    reject\n  }\n}\n\nwhen HTTP_REQUEST {\n  if { [matchclass [HTTP::uri] starts_with $::requires_client_cert] } {\n    if { [SSL::cert count] <= 0 } {\n      HTTP::collect\n      SSL::authenticate always\n      SSL::authenticate depth 9\n      SSL::cert mode require\n      SSL::renegotiate\n    }\n  }\n}  

 

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Hi mihaic 

Thank you for your answer. However, we would like to avoid using SSL Renegotiation.

Is there any way to do this through the APM?

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Do your clients support SNI? If so, you could have two SSL profiles attached to your VIP. The default one would for your 4 websites and the SNI one would be for your site that requires Client Cert auth and so would have this option set to require. The default SSL profile would have Client Cert set to Ignore

\n

You could do this via APM I guess - if the requested HTTP Host equals the 5th site then you could enable APM and insert an On Demand Client Cert object

\n

SNI - https://support.f5.com/csp/article/K13452

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Just to quickly follow up on this question, the answer depends on when. From an OSI perspective, by the time you've reached the HTTP uri, the TLS handshake is already done, so you really don't have any other option but to perform renegotiation. Since the client and BIG-IP have already established a TLS session (without cert auth), you basically have to tell the client to start a new TLS handshake, while you flip on the cert auth option. Even APM does this for things like On-Demand Cert Auth, that happen after initial TLS handshake and after the access policy has started.

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If you can get to the data you're looking for before the TLS handshake finishes, like looking at the SNI in the layer 4 TCP payload, then it would be possible to switch client SSL profiles (between auth and non-auth SSL profiles).

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