I got a BIGIP LTM VE working after countless hours, however I still don't quite understand how come it works in terms of routing ... I hope some one can help me to understand the IP forwarding of this platform.
Here is my setup, all the VM are on a single ESX server with vswitch
I configured 192.168.1.1 as the selfip on 1.1 interface, and two web servers are using it as the default gateway, it is working, but how come it works ?
1. All the web servers and self IP are in 192.168.1.0/24 network
2. the virtual IP is in 10.0.0.0/24 network, there is no other route configured
3. the management IP is in 10.0.0.0/24 network, with a default route
When I send a HTTP request to the webserver, my source IP is not in any of the subnet that BIGIP is aware of, so I guess it needs a default route to return to me, but I didn't configure it anywhere, the only default route configuration is for the management port.
If all of the NICs are on the same subnet, you should be able to define a single VLAN and add the port(s) to the VLAN. You probably don't need to use multiple VM interfaces unless that's somehow adding resilience on the physical network.
On a normal LTM appliance, you wouldn't be able to define a virtual server on the management subnet. I assumed that would also be the case for the LTM virtual edition. I'd guess your scenario is working because TMM is using the management default route.
I would suggest defining the virtual servers on a switch port (vlan 52) and not using the management subnet. You can define a TMM route via the GUI under Networking >> Routes. For details on mgmt and TMM routing, you can check SOL
I modified my lab, now I have separate VLANs for internal, external and management, now my lab is broken if I access the virtual IP from another subnet other than the external VLAN.
I configured the default route, and now the routing table look like this:
[root@test-f5:Active] config bigpipe route show
ROUTE default inet
| VLAN External static
ROUTE 10.0.0.0/24
| VLAN External connected
ROUTE 127.1.1.0/24
| VLAN tmm0 connected
ROUTE 192.168.1.0/24
| VLAN Internal connected
ROUTE fe80::/64
| VLAN tmm0 connected
ROUTE fe80::%vlan4093/64
| VLAN External connected
ROUTE fe80::%vlan4094/64
| VLAN Internal connected
ROUTE ff02::/64
| VLAN tmm0 auto
ROUTE ff02::%vlan4093/64
| VLAN External auto
ROUTE ff02::%vlan4094/64
| VLAN Internal auto
if it is a Cisco router, I expect the default route should have a next-hop IP, so when it forwards the traffic, it knows where to forward to, in F5 routing table, it looks there is no next hop, only the VLAN, how can the F5 box knows the mac-address to encap the packet ?
Sorry if this question is too obvious, I am digging F5 from scratch, and have no background what so ever : -0
hmm, it looks it can work without any routing configured, I removed all the routing and only leave with connected interface, and I can still access the VIP from outside.
is this some kind of F5 magic ?
[root@test-f5:Active] config bigpipe route show
ROUTE 10.0.0.0/24
| VLAN External connected
ROUTE 127.1.1.0/24
| VLAN tmm0 connected
ROUTE 192.168.1.0/24
| VLAN Internal connected
ROUTE fe80::/64
| VLAN tmm0 connected
ROUTE fe80::%vlan4093/64
| VLAN External connected
ROUTE fe80::%vlan4094/64
| VLAN Internal connected
ROUTE ff02::/64
| VLAN tmm0 auto
ROUTE ff02::%vlan4093/64
| VLAN External auto
ROUTE ff02::%vlan4094/64
| VLAN Internal auto
there is no management route configured, but it seems still work.
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Good afternoon team,
I am attempting to build an IPSec tunnel between F5's in a multi-cloud environment. Phase 1 comes up but I cannot seem to make my traffic match the traffic selectors. I've tried using several different traffic selectors such as pairs that match self IP on the interfaces, self IP's on the tunnel interfaces, all zeroes to force a route based VPN. Even though I explicily source my pings, traffic never matches the traffic selector. I get zero hits on the traffic selector and tcpdumps reveal that no ESP packets are sent; only IPSec negotiation packets.
I just want to know that it's possible to source traffic on the same F5 that the tunnel is built on. I have been successful with other IPSec tunnels with the F5 but never where the F5 is the traffic source. IPSec on the F5 has always been almost the most convoluted out of all vendors (except for perhaps CP) so it wouldn't surprise me that I am trying for something that isn't even possible. Please community, confirm for me one way or the other.
Kind regards,
Nicolas
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Good afternoon team,
I am attempting to build an IPSec tunnel between F5's in a multi-cloud environment. Phase 1 comes up but I cannot seem to make my traffic match the traffic selectors. I've tried using several different traffic selectors such as pairs that match self IP on the interfaces, self IP's on the tunnel interfaces, all zeroes to force a route based VPN. Even though I explicily source my pings, traffic never matches the traffic selector. I get zero hits on the traffic selector and tcpdumps reveal that no ESP packets are sent; only IPSec negotiation packets.
I just want to know that it's possible to source traffic on the same F5 that the tunnel is built on. I have been successful with other IPSec tunnels with the F5 but never where the F5 is the traffic source. IPSec on the F5 has always been almost the most convoluted out of all vendors (except for perhaps CP) so it wouldn't surprise me that I am trying for something that isn't even possible. Please community, confirm for me one way or the other.
Kind regards,
Nicolas
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In your config there should be a VLAN assocated with the tunnel and you should have a self-ip associated with it. For example let's assume you have a VLAN named TUNNEL_VLAN and you have an address range of 172.16.1.0/30 and have assinged 172.16.1.1 to the BIG-IP you are logged in as and you have assinged 172.16.1.2 to the remote end. The traffic selector you have configured at least encompasses that range:
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net ipsec traffic-selector selector-vpn-a5294dfd-0 {
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destination-address 172.16.1.0/30
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ipsec-policy ipsec-policy-vpn-a5294dfd-0
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partition LOCAL_ONLY
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source-address 172.16.1.0/30
And asssuming the rest of you BIG-IP VPN config looks correct (this is an example of a BIG-IP in AWS setting up an IPSEC tunnel), and you are allowing ICMP on your self-IPs.
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net ipsec ike-peer peer-vpn-a5294dfd-0 {
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lifetime 480
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nat-traversal on
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phase1-auth-method pre-shared-key
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phase1-encrypt-algorithm aes128
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preshared-key-encrypted $M$uF$m+crQ1tis.....
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remote-address X.X.X.X
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version { v1 }
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}
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net ipsec ipsec-policy ipsec-policy-vpn-a5294dfd-0 {
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ike-phase2-auth-algorithm sha1
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ike-phase2-encrypt-algorithm aes128
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ike-phase2-lifetime 60
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ike-phase2-perfect-forward-secrecy modp1024
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mode interface
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partition LOCAL_ONLY
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}
Then the following command should put traffic from your BIG-IP onto the tunnel matching the selector -
PING -I TUNNEL_VLAN 172.16.1.2
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You can do this but but first I would recommend two things:
1. Use IKEv2 2. Use Route-based tunnels only with a traffic selector of 0.0.0.0/0 for both the source and destination.
I have yet to come across a piece of equipment where we are unable to successfully build a IKEv2 route-based tunnel. Do take note of https://support.f5.com/csp/article/K31553030
There are two ways to route traffic into the tunnel:
1. Routes are created on the Big-IP to funnel traffic into the appropriate tunnel. One issue with this solution is that if you have multiple tunnels terminating on the same Big-IP then traffic can flow from one tunnel to the other based on these routes. This may be good or bad depending on your requirement.
2. A virtual server is created for each of the individual routes that must be reached through the tunnel on the remote network. This virtual server will have a pool with one member which points to the far end of the transport tunnel. The virtual server will also listen only to the source IP and/or vlan you choose. Use this option if you want to ensure that traffic cannot flow between tunnels.
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