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LTM SSL Client Profile for TLS 1.3

Dave_21103
Nimbostratus
Nimbostratus

Hello All, We are running BIG-IP 14.0.0.1 Build 0.0.2 Point Release 1 and attempting to configure an SSL client profile to only negotiate TLS 1.3, https://support.f5.com/csp/article/K10251520 We've configured a Cipher group to only allow TLS13-AES128-GCM-SHA256 and TLS13-AES256-GCM-SHA384. However, this breaks things. Packet captures reveal when our client hits the VIP (Chrome v70), it tries to negotiate TLSv1.2. How do we get the browser to send the initial SSL "Client Hello" request using the TLSv1.3 protocol? Right now its sending TLSv1.2 Client Hello's and VIP just responds with handshake failure. Is this a browser version setting thing or an SSL Client profile issue? Thanks All!

 

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Kevin_Stewart
F5 Employee
F5 Employee

Did you go to chrome://flags in the Chrome browser and enable TLS 1.3? In any case, Chrome only ever supported drafts 23 and 28 (and now the final), while BIG-IP 14.0 supports draft 26.

 

RFC 8446 TLS 1.3 support comes in the 14.1.

 

But you're on the right configuration path:

 

• Create a cipher rule (Local Traffic - Ciphers - Rules) ○ Cipher Suites: 'TLSv1_3' ○ Note that the above (on 14.0) only supports TLS13-AES128-GCM-SHA256 and TLS13-AES256-GCM-SHA384 ○ Note that the 14.0 'DEFAULT' stack also includes the two TLS 1.3 ciphers • Create a cipher group (Local Traffic - Ciphers - Groups) ○ Select TLS 1.3 cipher rule • Create a client SSL profile ○ Ciphers: cipher group ○ Options List: disable 'No TLSv1.3' option

wlopez
Cirrostratus
Cirrostratus

I asked several F5 employees about TLS 1.3 support during this year's Agility conference in August.

 

They all gave me the same answer.

 

The final RFC standard for TLS 1.3 would be included for client facing connections in version 14.1 expected to be released late 1st quarter/early 2nd quarter.

 

Has that changed?

 

Client-side TLS 1.3 comes in 14.1.

 

Server-side TLS 1.3 comes in 15.0.

 

Thanks for the quick response! Any updates on the expected release date for 14.1?

 

wlopez_98779
Nimbostratus
Nimbostratus

I asked several F5 employees about TLS 1.3 support during this year's Agility conference in August.

 

They all gave me the same answer.

 

The final RFC standard for TLS 1.3 would be included for client facing connections in version 14.1 expected to be released late 1st quarter/early 2nd quarter.

 

Has that changed?

 

Client-side TLS 1.3 comes in 14.1.

 

Server-side TLS 1.3 comes in 15.0.

 

Thanks for the quick response! Any updates on the expected release date for 14.1?

 

wlopez_98779
Nimbostratus
Nimbostratus

Version 14.1 was released last week.

 

Can anybody confirm it this version includes the final standard version of TLS 1.3 on the Client-side?

 

Haven't seen anything about it on the release notes.

 

I loaded the latest version (BIGIP-14.1.0.1-0.0.7.iso) on our lab. The openssl version on that release is "OpenSSL 1.0.2o-fips 27 Mar 2018".

 

Does that version of openssl include the final standard RFC for TLSv1.3?

 

According to openssl's website:

 

https://www.openssl.org/blog/blog/2018/09/11/release111/

 

"Since 1.1.1 is our new LTS release we are strongly advising all users to upgrade as soon as possible. For most applications this should be straight forward if they are written to work with OpenSSL 1.1.0. Since OpenSSL 1.1.0 is not an LTS release it will start receiving security fixes only with immediate affect as per our previous announcement and as published in our release strategy. It will cease receiving all support in one years time.

 

Our previous LTS release (OpenSSL 1.0.2) will continue to receive full support until the end of this year. After that it will receive security fixes only. It will stop receiving all support at the end of 2019. Users of that release are strongly advised to upgrade to OpenSSL 1.1.1.

 

The OpenSSL team will now be moving our focus to the next release which will see us developing a new FIPS module."

 

[root@bigip1:Active:Standalone] config openssl version -a OpenSSL 1.0.2o-fips 27 Mar 2018 built on: reproducible build, date unspecified platform: linux-x86_64 options: bn(64,64) rc4(16x,int) des(idx,cisc,16,int) blowfish(idx) compiler: gcc -I. -I.. -I../include -fPIC -DOPENSSL_PIC -DZLIB -DOPENSSL_THREADS -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -Wa,--noexecstack -I/home/f5cm/cm/bigip14.1.0.1/1082522/f5_build/devfs_x86_64/usr/include -DOPENSSL_NO_EC2M -Werror -m64 -O3 -DL_ENDIAN -Wall -fdebug-prefix-map=/home/f5cm/cm/bigip14.1.0.1/1082522/f5_build/devfs_x86_64/usr=/usr -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT5 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_GF2m -DRC4_ASM -DSHA1_ASM -DSHA256_ASM -DSHA512_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DAES_ASM -DVPAES_ASM -DBSAES_ASM -DWHIRLPOOL_ASM -DG**text**HASH_ASM -DECP_NISTZ256_ASM OPENSSLDIR: "/etc/pki/tls" engines: dynamic tm_crypto rdrand

wlopez
Cirrostratus
Cirrostratus

Version 14.1 was released last week.

 

Can anybody confirm it this version includes the final standard version of TLS 1.3 on the Client-side?

 

Haven't seen anything about it on the release notes.

 

I loaded the latest version (BIGIP-14.1.0.1-0.0.7.iso) on our lab. The openssl version on that release is "OpenSSL 1.0.2o-fips 27 Mar 2018".

 

Does that version of openssl include the final standard RFC for TLSv1.3?

 

According to openssl's website:

 

https://www.openssl.org/blog/blog/2018/09/11/release111/

 

"Since 1.1.1 is our new LTS release we are strongly advising all users to upgrade as soon as possible. For most applications this should be straight forward if they are written to work with OpenSSL 1.1.0. Since OpenSSL 1.1.0 is not an LTS release it will start receiving security fixes only with immediate affect as per our previous announcement and as published in our release strategy. It will cease receiving all support in one years time.

 

Our previous LTS release (OpenSSL 1.0.2) will continue to receive full support until the end of this year. After that it will receive security fixes only. It will stop receiving all support at the end of 2019. Users of that release are strongly advised to upgrade to OpenSSL 1.1.1.

 

The OpenSSL team will now be moving our focus to the next release which will see us developing a new FIPS module."

 

[root@bigip1:Active:Standalone] config openssl version -a OpenSSL 1.0.2o-fips 27 Mar 2018 built on: reproducible build, date unspecified platform: linux-x86_64 options: bn(64,64) rc4(16x,int) des(idx,cisc,16,int) blowfish(idx) compiler: gcc -I. -I.. -I../include -fPIC -DOPENSSL_PIC -DZLIB -DOPENSSL_THREADS -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -Wa,--noexecstack -I/home/f5cm/cm/bigip14.1.0.1/1082522/f5_build/devfs_x86_64/usr/include -DOPENSSL_NO_EC2M -Werror -m64 -O3 -DL_ENDIAN -Wall -fdebug-prefix-map=/home/f5cm/cm/bigip14.1.0.1/1082522/f5_build/devfs_x86_64/usr=/usr -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT5 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_GF2m -DRC4_ASM -DSHA1_ASM -DSHA256_ASM -DSHA512_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DAES_ASM -DVPAES_ASM -DBSAES_ASM -DWHIRLPOOL_ASM -DG**text**HASH_ASM -DECP_NISTZ256_ASM OPENSSLDIR: "/etc/pki/tls" engines: dynamic tm_crypto rdrand

Richard_Shuford
F5 Employee
F5 Employee

Keep in mind that the "OpenSSL" options are relevant only to the BIG-IP's control plane. The payload traffic passing through the data plane encounters the TLS (and other protocols) as implemented in the Traffic Management Microkernel (TMM), which in general consists of proprietary code written by F5.