How to make outbound traffic to flow through an F5
Hello, We have an F5 LTM that front our backend middleware server-pair in a HA setup. So F5 serves as a LB that forward incoming traffic to the active one. But we also need the backend server...
Thanks Jason. I think I nailed down the caching problem. I am not 100% sure but it appears it was a mix of browser settings and "persistent" policy settings for the LB. They were both related to cookies issues. Now it appears that when a server is down (or taken offline from the pool) now the browser gets redirected to the "surviving" one.
I am still wondering about being able to refresh the browser and circle between the two web servers within that session (I can swear I have seen this happening in other demos) EVEN THOUGH the ap idea was excellent and it may give a much better real-life tasting of what happens when you have thousands of connections! You can then monitor the statistics of the node to show how the connections have been balanced! Thanks!
That depends on your security requirements. Many customers use the same BIG-IP with separate VLANs to isolate networks. You could further isolate networks using route domains. Or for newer Viprions on 11.x, you could use vCMP to create virtual BIG-IP instances.
It might be worth talking with your F5 or partner SE to go over your exact scenario.
Craig - we host both DMZ and internal applications on a single pair. As Aaron stated, you can simply trunk multiple VLAN's to your BIG-IPs (one for your DMZ, one for your internal stuff, etc).
You can... But I wouldn't... Unless it's a Viprion and you're using separate vCMP guests for DMZ and internal.
You have firewalls between DMZ and internal for a reason. One of those is a single point of control. Having a single system 'bridge' the firewall like this can lead to security leaks.
You have firewalls between DMZ and internal for a reason. One of those is a single point of control. Having a single system 'bridge' the firewall like this can lead to security leaks. thinking if route domain is helpful in migitgating the security leak.
It helps. But i still wouldnt bridge different levels of security like that. Bridging between zones of the same level i have done in the past. But dmz to internal is one i wouldnt do... Especially if a different team admin the firewall and bigip...
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What I am trying to do is fairly simple but apparently I am not having too much luck. Scenario: Subnet 192.168.100.0/24...","body@stringLength":"2229","rawBody":"Hopefully this is the right bucket for this. What I am trying to do is fairly simple but apparently I am not having too much luck.
Scenario:
Subnet 192.168.100.0/24 (default gateway 192.168.100.150) with a couple of web server: 192.168.100.161 / 162
On the same subnet I have configured the \"internal\" leg of the BIG IP (VE) device: 192.168.100.151
Configuration:
I have configured a virtual IP (192.168.100.160) that points with the Round Robin algorithm to the two web srvs (161 / 162). I have used all the defaults and I have created the config multiple times both using the out-of-the-box \"generic HTTP\" template as well as creating the pool of srv and assigning that pool to a virtual IP that I have created manually.
Objective:
Being able to connect from an external machine (either on the same subnet or on another subnet) to the IP 192.168.100.160 and being balanced to 161 and 162 alternatively refreshing the browser.
I noted however that the when I browse 160 i land on one of the two servers and despite the refresh I continue to be addressed to the same host (i.e. no round robin). That made me think there was some level of stickiness in the default cfg. However when I shutdown the server I am balanced to the browser continue to show the (static) web page of the server I turned off. This makes me think there may be also some level of caching for static content (I am using a very basic html static page).
So my question is: is there anything that needs to be tweaked to configure the BIGIP so that it balances refreshing the browser on the same client (no stickiness) and even more importantly that redirects me to the other server when the one I am balanced to goes down (no caching)?
Thanks.
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Scenario:
Subnet 192.168.100.0/24 (default gateway 192.168.100.150) with a couple of web server: 192.168.100.161 / 162
On the same subnet I have configured the \"internal\" leg of the BIG IP (VE) device: 192.168.100.151
Configuration:
I have configured a virtual IP (192.168.100.160) that points with the Round Robin algorithm to the two web srvs (161 / 162). I have used all the defaults and I have created the config multiple times both using the out-of-the-box \"generic HTTP\" template as well as creating the pool of srv and assigning that pool to a virtual IP that I have created manually.
Objective:
Being able to connect from an external machine (either on the same subnet or on another subnet) to the IP 192.168.100.160 and being balanced to 161 and 162 alternatively refreshing the browser.
I noted however that the when I browse 160 i land on one of the two servers and despite the refresh I continue to be addressed to the same host (i.e. no round robin). That made me think there was some level of stickiness in the default cfg. However when I shutdown the server I am balanced to the browser continue to show the (static) web page of the server I turned off. This makes me think there may be also some level of caching for static content (I am using a very basic html static page).
So my question is: is there anything that needs to be tweaked to configure the BIGIP so that it balances refreshing the browser on the same client (no stickiness) and even more importantly that redirects me to the other server when the one I am balanced to goes down (no caching)?
Thanks.
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I am still wondering about being able to refresh the browser and circle between the two web servers within that session (I can swear I have seen this happening in other demos) EVEN THOUGH the ap idea was excellent and it may give a much better real-life tasting of what happens when you have thousands of connections! You can then monitor the statistics of the node to show how the connections have been balanced! Thanks!
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I am still wondering about being able to refresh the browser and circle between the two web servers within that session (I can swear I have seen this happening in other demos) EVEN THOUGH the ap idea was excellent and it may give a much better real-life tasting of what happens when you have thousands of connections! You can then monitor the statistics of the node to show how the connections have been balanced! Thanks!
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hoolioCirrostratus
Hi Craig,
Josh_41258
HamishCirrocumulus
You can... But I wouldn't... Unless it's a Viprion and you're using separate vCMP guests for DMZ and internal.Employee
You have firewalls between DMZ and internal for a reason. One of those is a single point of control. Having a single system 'bridge' the firewall like this can lead to security leaks. thinking if route domain is helpful in migitgating the security leak.
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