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Hi All,

 

\n

I have been working with F5 LTM in fine tuning the health monitor for SharePoint 2013 iAPP rule, please go through the information below and provide your inputs:\nEnvironment:\nBIG IP F5 LTM 11.3\nSharePoint 2010 Template released on October 2012 ( Not the latest)\n2 SharePoint WFE servers ( Windows Server 2012)

 

\n

Setup:\n1. Few web applications are published through single virtual server IP on F5: webapp1.contoso.com, webapp2.conotoso.com, webapp3.contoso.com, webapp4.contoso.com and webapp5.contoso.com.\n2. UAG is ahead of F5 and its doing the authentication and authorization for the end users. F5 is used for mainly load balancing.\n3. The F5 iAPP rule as follows:\n

 

\n

Questions:\n1. The current basic HTTP monitor has the following send string GET /\\r\\n (it doesn't have any application URL's) and we are not sure 100% if this is correct and it will monitor all the web applications?\n2. How do we configure the HTTP monitor to improve the load balancing for SharePoint web applications? Please provide me the examples and also the way to test the monitor and make sure they are working as expected.\n3. Also noticed the latest iAPP templates for SharePoint http://support.f5.com/kb/en-us/solutions/public/15000/000/sol15043.html, does it have any specific improvements to monitoring?

 

\n

I really appreciate your help!

 

\n

Regards

 

\n

Bala

 

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Hi All,

 

\n

I have been working with F5 LTM in fine tuning the health monitor for SharePoint 2013 iAPP rule, please go through the information below and provide your inputs:\nEnvironment:\nBIG IP F5 LTM 11.3\nSharePoint 2010 Template released on October 2012 ( Not the latest)\n2 SharePoint WFE servers ( Windows Server 2012)

 

\n

Setup:\n1. Few web applications are published through single virtual server IP on F5: webapp1.contoso.com, webapp2.conotoso.com, webapp3.contoso.com, webapp4.contoso.com and webapp5.contoso.com.\n2. UAG is ahead of F5 and its doing the authentication and authorization for the end users. F5 is used for mainly load balancing.\n3. The F5 iAPP rule as follows:\n

 

\n

Questions:\n1. The current basic HTTP monitor has the following send string GET /\\r\\n (it doesn't have any application URL's) and we are not sure 100% if this is correct and it will monitor all the web applications?\n2. How do we configure the HTTP monitor to improve the load balancing for SharePoint web applications? Please provide me the examples and also the way to test the monitor and make sure they are working as expected.\n3. Also noticed the latest iAPP templates for SharePoint http://support.f5.com/kb/en-us/solutions/public/15000/000/sol15043.html, does it have any specific improvements to monitoring?

 

\n

I really appreciate your help!

 

\n

Regards

 

\n

Bala

 

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Hi Kevin and Mike!

 

\n

Thank you so much for your response. I am a newbie to F5 and in the process learning its awesomeness. To answer your questions:

 

\n
  1. \n

    What kind of HTTP request will truly identify a healthy (or unhealthy) SharePoint server? What URI is only available, or what response payload is only given if the SharePoint server is up and running? Do you need to provide credentials to make a request?\nBala: HTTP 200 OK Response from the SP servers applications considered as healthy. Yes, we need to use NTLM to access the application pages. One thing that I would like to understand about the F5 HTTP monitoring is, is it capable of monitoring all the web applications through single GET string? In our case, we have five web applications published through the single virtual IP on F5, if we need to monitor all the five applications and making sure they are all up and running before F5 LTM passes the request, is it possible through the HTTP monitor? Our goal is to be able to monitor all the web applications on SharePoint servers ( Send the GET requests different web applications home pages .i.e. welcomePage.aspx, default.aspx and homepage.aspx) and making sure they are all healthy before passing the user request to the servers.

     

    \n
  2. \n

    Using something better than Round Robin load balancing is your best first step. Least Connections and Observed methods are popular.\nYes we are using the Least Connections (Member) for that rule.

     

    \n
  3. \n

    iCall Script looks great, but I need some details on how to implement this in conjunction with iAPP SharePoint rule. Also noticed in that article that the BIG-IP needs to be on 11.4 or higher in order to get the iCall implemented. Ours is currently on BIG-IP 11.3.0 Build 3117.0 Hotfix HF5, not sure if its possible to update the Big-IP at this stage.

     

    \n
\n

We do have a software (WMI Based) for monitoring the websites in our environment. Last time when we had an outage on the SharePoint application (App pool down) the F5 was still passing the request to the servers :( without even marking that node is down.

 

\n

I really appreciate your help!

 

\n

Regards

 

\n

Bala

 

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Hi Kevin and Mike!

 

\n

Thank you so much for your response. I am a newbie to F5 and in the process learning its awesomeness. To answer your questions:

 

\n
  1. \n

    What kind of HTTP request will truly identify a healthy (or unhealthy) SharePoint server? What URI is only available, or what response payload is only given if the SharePoint server is up and running? Do you need to provide credentials to make a request?\nBala: HTTP 200 OK Response from the SP servers applications considered as healthy. Yes, we need to use NTLM to access the application pages. One thing that I would like to understand about the F5 HTTP monitoring is, is it capable of monitoring all the web applications through single GET string? In our case, we have five web applications published through the single virtual IP on F5, if we need to monitor all the five applications and making sure they are all up and running before F5 LTM passes the request, is it possible through the HTTP monitor? Our goal is to be able to monitor all the web applications on SharePoint servers ( Send the GET requests different web applications home pages .i.e. welcomePage.aspx, default.aspx and homepage.aspx) and making sure they are all healthy before passing the user request to the servers.

     

    \n
  2. \n

    Using something better than Round Robin load balancing is your best first step. Least Connections and Observed methods are popular.\nYes we are using the Least Connections (Member) for that rule.

     

    \n
  3. \n

    iCall Script looks great, but I need some details on how to implement this in conjunction with iAPP SharePoint rule. Also noticed in that article that the BIG-IP needs to be on 11.4 or higher in order to get the iCall implemented. Ours is currently on BIG-IP 11.3.0 Build 3117.0 Hotfix HF5, not sure if its possible to update the Big-IP at this stage.

     

    \n
\n

We do have a software (WMI Based) for monitoring the websites in our environment. Last time when we had an outage on the SharePoint application (App pool down) the F5 was still passing the request to the servers :( without even marking that node is down.

 

\n

I really appreciate your help!

 

\n

Regards

 

\n

Bala

 

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