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In version 11, there is another properties which name is " Initial Retransmission Timeout Base Multiplier for SYN Retransmission".     Is there anyone knows what is the exact function/meaning o...
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performs 100x slower under load","id":"message:36801","revisionNum":2,"repliesCount":21,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:186754"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:36801"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:36801"},"body@stripHtml({\"truncateLength\":200})":" Hello,   \n I have an iRule (BIGIP v9.4.8) whose HTTP_REQUEST timing performance drops by 100x when under load. How can I diagnose what's happening? Under what conditions can an iRule slow down (in t...","body@stringLength":"3690","rawBody":"

Hello,

 

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I have an iRule (BIGIP v9.4.8) whose HTTP_REQUEST timing performance drops by 100x when under load. How can I diagnose what's happening? Under what conditions can an iRule slow down (in terms of cycles/request) when there's more significant traffic (200-1000 HTTP requests per second)?

 

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HTTP_REQUEST performance in a development environment (BIG IP 3400 w/ v9.4.8) ran with timing stats of roughly 1,000,000 cycles/request average and 10,000,000 cycles/request max. By commenting out pieces of code, we found that 90% of that time is spent on decrypting cookies. According to the \"F5DevCentral_iRulesRuntimeCalculator\" (see \"Evaluating iRule Performance\") the 10^6 cycles only represent 357 microseconds. No big deal. The max of 10^7 is a little worry but is still only 3.5 milliseconds. \n\n

 

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\"b rule show all\" output from developer environment (BIG IP v9.4.8, BIG IP 3400)

 

\n+-> HTTP_REQUEST 7252 total 0 fail 0 abort\n| | Cycles (min, avg, max) = (46052, 838937, 9343832)\n+-> HTTP_RESPONSE 7079 total 0 fail 0 abort\n| | Cycles (min, avg, max) = (34872, 849654, 9031528)

 

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When we deploy this rule into production (BIG IP v9.4.8, BIG IP 3400), the performance falls off a cliff:

 

\n+-> HTTP_REQUEST 4530 total 2 fail 0 abort\n| | Cycles (min, avg, max) = (239321, 103.3M, 200.0M)\n+-> HTTP_RESPONSE 4406 total 8 fail 0 abort\n| | Cycles (min, avg, max) = (390987, 132.1M, 197.9M)

 

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(Note: the 7252 requests in DEV were from an entire day of testing where the 4530 requests in prod came from only a couple of minutes.)

 

 

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We've done fairly comprehensive comparisons between dev and production and I don't see any significant configuration differences. The CPU is about 30% busy. The memory (through 'top') is running at 50% (of 2GB). This box, like the dev box, serves a large of virtual servers but under greater load.

 

\n

I've gone through the \"Ten Steps to iRules Optimization\" and the \"Evaluating iRule Performance\" documents linked to from here: SOL11769. However, I haven't yet found info that would explain the timing behavior differences between dev and prod.

 

\n

From other posts on DEVCENTRAL, I've found the 'tmctl' and 'b memory' commands to see if I have a memory leak.

 

\n

Commenting out sections of the iRule step by step in the development environment, reseting statistics and re-exercising the rule, I can account for all of the \"cycles\" seen in the DEV environment. But there is a 100x slow down when the rule is facing heavier traffic in production. What tricks do you know to figure out why?

 

\n

Thanks for your time,

 

\n-- Chris

 

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Hello,

 

\n

I have an iRule (BIGIP v9.4.8) whose HTTP_REQUEST timing performance drops by 100x when under load. How can I diagnose what's happening? Under what conditions can an iRule slow down (in terms of cycles/request) when there's more significant traffic (200-1000 HTTP requests per second)?

 

\n

HTTP_REQUEST performance in a development environment (BIG IP 3400 w/ v9.4.8) ran with timing stats of roughly 1,000,000 cycles/request average and 10,000,000 cycles/request max. By commenting out pieces of code, we found that 90% of that time is spent on decrypting cookies. According to the \"F5DevCentral_iRulesRuntimeCalculator\" (see \"Evaluating iRule Performance\") the 10^6 cycles only represent 357 microseconds. No big deal. The max of 10^7 is a little worry but is still only 3.5 milliseconds. \n\n

 

\n

\"b rule show all\" output from developer environment (BIG IP v9.4.8, BIG IP 3400)

 

\n+-> HTTP_REQUEST   7252 total   0 fail   0 abort\n|   |     Cycles (min, avg, max) = (46052, 838937, 9343832)\n+-> HTTP_RESPONSE   7079 total   0 fail   0 abort\n|   |     Cycles (min, avg, max) = (34872, 849654, 9031528)

 

\n

When we deploy this rule into production (BIG IP v9.4.8, BIG IP 3400), the performance falls off a cliff:

 

\n+-> HTTP_REQUEST   4530 total  2 fail  0 abort\n|   |      Cycles (min, avg, max) = (239321, 103.3M, 200.0M)\n+-> HTTP_RESPONSE   4406 total  8 fail  0 abort\n|   |      Cycles (min, avg, max) = (390987, 132.1M, 197.9M)

 

\n

(Note: the 7252 requests in DEV were from an entire day of testing where the 4530 requests in prod came from only a couple of minutes.)

 

 

\n

We've done fairly comprehensive comparisons between dev and production and I don't see any significant configuration differences. The CPU is about 30% busy. The memory (through 'top') is running at 50% (of 2GB). This box, like the dev box, serves a large of virtual servers but under greater load.

 

\n

I've gone through the \"Ten Steps to iRules Optimization\" and the \"Evaluating iRule Performance\" documents linked to from here: SOL11769. However, I haven't yet found info that would explain the timing behavior differences between dev and prod.

 

\n

From other posts on DEVCENTRAL, I've found the 'tmctl' and 'b memory' commands to see if I have a memory leak.

 

\n

Commenting out sections of the iRule step by step in the development environment, reseting statistics and re-exercising the rule, I can account for all of the \"cycles\" seen in the DEV environment. But there is a 100x slow down when the rule is facing heavier traffic in production. What tricks do you know to figure out why?

 

\n

Thanks for your time,

 

\n-- Chris

 

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\n

 

I suppose I would do a ramp up test. Specifically determine if the performance degradation is linear or does it degrade when it reaches a specific specific amount.

\n

 

\n

 

Other areas that I would check is to do a bug scrub of the version you are using. Another item that I would check would be the ECV. Several years go my operational counterparts noticed in one of our v9 ADCs performance degredation was attributed to aggressive monitoring that was applied overtime. He noticed only when there was load applied. The fix was to adjust the monitoring to default levels and everything worked out.

\n

 

\n

 

Other than that I would definitely get F5 support involved which they can take a deeper look into what's happening.

\n

 

\n

 

I hope this helps,

\n

 

Bhattman","body@stringLength":"930","rawBody":"Hi Chris,

\n

 

I suppose I would do a ramp up test. Specifically determine if the performance degradation is linear or does it degrade when it reaches a specific specific amount.

\n

 

\n

 

Other areas that I would check is to do a bug scrub of the version you are using. Another item that I would check would be the ECV. Several years go my operational counterparts noticed in one of our v9 ADCs performance degredation was attributed to aggressive monitoring that was applied overtime. He noticed only when there was load applied. The fix was to adjust the monitoring to default levels and everything worked out.

\n

 

\n

 

Other than that I would definitely get F5 support involved which they can take a deeper look into what's happening.

\n

 

\n

 

I hope this helps,

\n

 

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