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Hello All,
I am having issues with a new configured F5 big-IP that everything works fine as follows.
configuration F5 as follows:
F5 Virtual IP : 192.168.1.41
self IP: int 1 : 10.10.10.14
self IP int 2 : 192.168.1.41
web server pool : 10.10.10.X range with class c subnet.
SSL is configured between the client to F5 as clientssl and between the server and F5 as serverssl.
source address translation is automap.
I am having trouble why it doesn't work and is trying to find out the problem.
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I am having issues with a new configured F5 big-IP that everything works fine as follows.
configuration F5 as follows:
F5 Virtual IP : 192.168.1.41
self IP: int 1 : 10.10.10.14
self IP int 2 : 192.168.1.41
web server pool : 10.10.10.X range with class c subnet.
SSL is configured between the client to F5 as clientssl and between the server and F5 as serverssl.
source address translation is automap.
I am having trouble why it doesn't work and is trying to find out the problem.
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\ncan you also check that you're using auto map in your VIP, you can try SNAT , so could you please try apply SNAT ?
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If client ip should be transition and is not routable THROUGH the bigip you need SNAT activated with automap (than it uses float ip in HA or selfip in standalone) or you configure a snat pool
\n\n
If i see this correct, you give your virtual server the same IP as your pool member?
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you can have decrypted tcpdump using this procedure which the result will be useful for analysis
https://clouddocs.f5.com/training/community/adc/html/class4/module1/lab10.html
https://my.f5.com/manage/s/article/K31793632
even with non decrypted tcpdump, wireshark can show tls session setup sequence.
at least in old version, health monitor uses management layer's network routing, which is different from what ltm traffic uses.
so, health monitor OK doesnt always mean ltm traffic can reach backend server.
what route path normally ltm uses and how it makes the packet route decisions? if you could elaborate more on that.
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I captured the tcpdump packet and analyzed it, the request is coming from the client and three-way handshake is done between the client and the F5 but after nothing happens and when I look into the pool statistics nothing is there and it's all zero.
have captured packets multiple times and checked packet by packet and the connection is RST at last.
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If you can provide the associated configuration of the F5 it would help significantly in troubleshooting this issue. How have you verified that connections are not being sent out from the F5 to the pool members? If you could try running the following tcpdump it might point you to the issue.
\n\n
tcpdump -nni 0.0:nnp host <virtual server IP>
\n\n
The tcpdump should follow the SNAT that is occurring to see where the connection is not functioning properly.
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