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F5 LTM SNAT: only 1 outgoing connection, multiple internal clients

I have an F5 LTM SNAT configured: ltm snat /Common/outgoing_snat_v6 { description "IPv6 SNAT translation" mirror enabled origins { ::/0 { } } snatpool /Common/outgoing_...
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    Dec 03, 2018

    After a lot of back and forth, this is the configuration we ended up implementing on F5 LTM v12.1.3.6, that allowed us to utilize MRF to combine multiple connections into a single outgoing connection. The connection exits via the SNAT IP. Hope this helps someone.

    First, we defined a Virtual Server to which the clients send the Diameter requests:

    ltm virtual /Common/virtual_Diameter_Message_Routing {
        destination /Common/HSS_v_Diameter_v6:3868
        ip-protocol tcp
        profiles {
            /Common/profile_diam_message_routing { }
            /Common/profile_diam_message_routing_router_profile { }
            /Common/tcp { }
        }
        rules {
            /Common/qux
        }
        source-address-translation {
            pool /Common/diameter_snatpool
            type snat
        }
        translate-address enabled
        translate-port enabled
    }
    

    ... while the destination is defined as:

    ltm virtual-address /Common/HSS_v_Diameter_v6 {
        address fd41:2:2:1::111
        arp enabled
        icmp-echo enabled
        traffic-group /Common/traffic-group-1
    }
    

    The profiles are defined as:

    ltm message-routing diameter profile session /Common/profile_diam_message_routing {
        acct-application-id 4294967295
        app-service none
        auth-application-id 16777217
        defaults-from /Common/diametersession
        origin-host myoriginhost.test.com
        origin-host-rewrite myoriginhost2.test.com
        origin-realm test.com
        product-name product
        vendor-id 10415
    }
    
    ltm message-routing diameter profile router /Common/profile_diam_message_routing_router_profile {
        app-service none
        defaults-from /Common/diameterrouter
        routes {
            /Common/profile_diam_message_routing_static_route_to_peer
        }
    }
    
    ltm message-routing diameter route /Common/profile_diam_message_routing_static_route_to_peer {
        peers {
            /Common/profile_diam_message_routing_peer
        }
        virtual-server /Common/virtual_Diameter_Message_Routing
    }
    
    ltm message-routing diameter peer /Common/profile_diam_message_routing_peer {
        pool /Common/pool_diameter_server
        transport-config /Common/profile_diam_message_routing_transport
    }    
    
    ltm message-routing diameter transport-config /Common/profile_diam_message_routing_transport {
        ip-protocol tcp
        profiles {
            /Common/profile_diam_message_routing { }
            /Common/tcp { }
        }
        rules {
            /Common/qux
        }
        source-address-translation {
            pool /Common/diameter_snatpool
            type snat
        }
    } 
    

    The SNAT is defined as:

    ltm snatpool /Common/diameter_snatpool {
        members {
            /Common/ext_SNAT_v6
        }
    }
    
    ltm snat-translation /Common/ext_SNAT_v6 {
        address 2607:f160:11:1101::63
        inherited-traffic-group true
        traffic-group /Common/traffic-group-1
    }
    
    ltm snat /Common/outgoing_snat_v6 {
        description "IPv6 SNAT translation"
        mirror enabled
        origins {
            ::/0 { }
        }
        snatpool /Common/outgoing_snatpool_v6
        vlans {
            /Common/internal
        }
        vlans-enabled
    }
    

    ... and finally, the iRules had to be setup to remove Mandatory flags from some of the AVPs that should not have the mandatory bits (bug?) and to send additional Diameter AVPs:

    ltm rule /Common/qux {
        when DIAMETER_EGRESS {
            switch [DIAMETER::command] {
                "257" {
                     260 Vendor-Specific-Application-Id
                     258 Auth-Application-Id
                     266 Vendor-Id
    
                    set aaid_avp [DIAMETER::avp create Auth-Application-Id 0 1 0 0 16777264 unsigned32]
                    set vid_avp [DIAMETER::avp create Vendor-Id 0 1 0 0 10415 unsigned32]
                     DIAMETER::avp append is not designed to create nested avp (ID371630)
                     set grouped_avp [DIAMETER::avp append Auth-Application-Id $aaid_avp source $vid_avp]
                    set grouped_avp ${vid_avp}${aaid_avp}
                    set vsa_avp [DIAMETER::avp create Vendor-Specific-Application-Id 0 1 0 0 $grouped_avp grouped]
                    DIAMETER::avp delete Vendor-Specific-Application-Id
                    DIAMETER::avp insert Vendor-Specific-Application-Id $vsa_avp
    
                    if { [DIAMETER::is_request] } {
                        DIAMETER::avp mflag set Product-Name 0
                        DIAMETER::avp mflag set Firmware-Revision 0
                    }
                }
                default {
                     do something
                }
            }
        }
    }
    
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I have an F5 LTM SNAT configured:

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... with a translation configured as:

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... with snatpool configured as:

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... and finally, with the SNAT type set to automap:

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The goal is to achieve a single Diameter connection (single source IP, port) between F5 and the external element, while internally multiple Diameter clients connect via F5 to the external element:

\n

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However, what ends up happening with this SNAT configuration is that multiple outgoing Diameter connections to the external Diameter element are opened, with the only difference between them being the source port (source IP, destination IP and port remained the same).

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The external element cannot handle multiple connections per the same origin IP and the same Diameter entity (internal clients are all configured to use the same Origin-Host during the Capabilities Exchange phase).

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Is there a way to configure F5 to funnel all the internal connections into a single outgoing one?

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I have an F5 LTM SNAT configured:

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ltm snat /Common/outgoing_snat_v6 {\n    description \"IPv6 SNAT translation\"\n    mirror enabled\n    origins {\n        ::/0 { }\n    }\n    snatpool /Common/outgoing_snatpool_v6\n    vlans {\n        /Common/internal\n    }\n    vlans-enabled\n}\n
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... with a translation configured as:

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ltm snat-translation /Common/ext_SNAT_v6 {\n    address 2607:f160:c:301d::63\n    inherited-traffic-group true\n    traffic-group /Common/traffic-group-1\n}\n
\n\n

... with snatpool configured as:

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ltm snatpool /Common/outgoing_snatpool_v6 {\n    members {\n        /Common/ext_SNAT_v6\n    }\n}\n
\n\n

... and finally, with the SNAT type set to automap:

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    vs_pool__snat_type {\n        value automap\n    } \n
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The goal is to achieve a single Diameter connection (single source IP, port) between F5 and the external element, while internally multiple Diameter clients connect via F5 to the external element:

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However, what ends up happening with this SNAT configuration is that multiple outgoing Diameter connections to the external Diameter element are opened, with the only difference between them being the source port (source IP, destination IP and port remained the same).

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The external element cannot handle multiple connections per the same origin IP and the same Diameter entity (internal clients are all configured to use the same Origin-Host during the Capabilities Exchange phase).

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Is there a way to configure F5 to funnel all the internal connections into a single outgoing one?

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Not sure i fully understand the scenarios which you described; however If you use standard virtual server, its a full-proxy architecture, so it will maintain two separate TCP connections between client-side and server-side. In your case if you have multiple clients they all individually initiate capability exchange with bigip, and bigip initiate separate capability exchange with server (in this process bigip send its own Origin-Host in the CER) when first message receive from client.

 

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Not sure i fully understand the scenarios which you described; however If you use standard virtual server, its a full-proxy architecture, so it will maintain two separate TCP connections between client-side and server-side. In your case if you have multiple clients they all individually initiate capability exchange with bigip, and bigip initiate separate capability exchange with server (in this process bigip send its own Origin-Host in the CER) when first message receive from client.

 

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After a lot of back and forth, this is the configuration we ended up implementing on F5 LTM v12.1.3.6, that allowed us to utilize MRF to combine multiple connections into a single outgoing connection.\nThe connection exits via the SNAT IP. Hope this helps someone.

\n

First, we defined a Virtual Server to which the clients send the Diameter requests:

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ltm virtual /Common/virtual_Diameter_Message_Routing {\n    destination /Common/HSS_v_Diameter_v6:3868\n    ip-protocol tcp\n    profiles {\n        /Common/profile_diam_message_routing { }\n        /Common/profile_diam_message_routing_router_profile { }\n        /Common/tcp { }\n    }\n    rules {\n        /Common/qux\n    }\n    source-address-translation {\n        pool /Common/diameter_snatpool\n        type snat\n    }\n    translate-address enabled\n    translate-port enabled\n}\n
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... while the destination is defined as:

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ltm virtual-address /Common/HSS_v_Diameter_v6 {\n    address fd41:2:2:1::111\n    arp enabled\n    icmp-echo enabled\n    traffic-group /Common/traffic-group-1\n}\n
\n\n

The profiles are defined as:

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\n\n

The SNAT is defined as:

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\n\n

... and finally, the iRules had to be setup to remove Mandatory flags from some of the AVPs that should not have the mandatory bits (bug?) and to send additional Diameter AVPs:

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GRamanan,

 

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The idea would be to take all these internal Diameter clients making outgoing Diameter connections, and funnel them through a single outgoing TCP connection.

 

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The internal Diameter clients are using SNAT currently when establishing an outgoing connection, and that results in the same originating connection IP, but different ports, and therefore multiple connections.

 

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So, the solution we'd need would combine all these different outgoing connections in a single TCP connection, but through it, multiple Diameter CERs would flow.

 

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