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Adding New BigIP Units Using Free CPUs on i7800 (LB13 & LB14) to an existing HA Pair
- Sep 24, 2024
Hi mshoaib,
To my understanding i7800 supports only 12 vCPU not 14 vCPU, as per written in f5 Documentation.
Can you please check again and share the vCMP host , and number of vCPU supported, is it 12 or is it 14.
Please refer:
https://my.f5.com/manage/s/article/K14218
https://wtit.com/f5-resources/vcmp-guest-memory-cpu-core-allocation-matrix/
Please mark it as solution in case if you feel your query has been responded and saved your time and giving pointers toward resolving your issue, as it will help other to use your query scenario to solve their similar issue.
Best Regards,
F5 Design Engineer
Yes this is very clear, thanks for the clear screenshot. I am checking.
Can you run ,check on you i7800 how many CPU, as if you run below i can see only 12 cpu starting from 0-11
Can you share the output of the following commands,
Make sure you remove all your serial numbers or any other information for privacy like device names or any IP, from all the outputs before posting your device details.
root@(i7800-F5-IA)(cfg-sync Standalone)(Active)(/Common)(tmos)# show sys cpu all
Sys::System CPU Information
-------------------------------------------------------------------
System CPU Usage(%) Current Average Max(since 09/26/24 00:49:41)
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Utilization 7 7 16
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Sys::Host CPUs
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Host: 0
CPU: 0 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
- (avg/sec) (avg/sec) (avg/sec) -
User 4 4 4 77.6M
Niced 0 0 0 8.3K
System 1 1 1 27.8M
Idle 93 93 93 1.4G
Irq 0 0 0 0
Softirq 0 0 0 95.2K
Iowait 0 0 0 140.0K
Stolen 0 0 0 0
Util% (last 5 sec) - - - 5
CPU: 1 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
- (avg/sec) (avg/sec) (avg/sec) -
User 9 11 11 137.4M
Niced 0 0 0 329.1K
System 1 0 1 10.1M
Idle 90 88 87 1.4G
Irq 0 0 0 0
Softirq 0 0 0 72.6K
Iowait 0 0 0 546.5K
Stolen 0 0 0 0
Util% (last 5 sec) - - - 9
CPU: 2 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
- (avg/sec) (avg/sec) (avg/sec) -
User 4 4 4 72.3M
Niced 0 0 0 12.0K
System 1 1 1 25.9M
Idle 93 93 93 1.4G
Irq 0 0 0 0
Softirq 0 0 0 12.6K
Iowait 0 0 0 187.1K
Stolen 0 0 0 0
Util% (last 5 sec) - - - 5
CPU: 3 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
- (avg/sec) (avg/sec) (avg/sec) -
User 18 12 14 166.4M
Niced 0 0 0 233.0K
System 1 0 1 16.3M
Idle 78 85 83 1.4G
Irq 0 0 0 0
Softirq 0 0 0 76.9K
Iowait 0 0 0 446.5K
Stolen 0 0 0 0
Util% (last 5 sec) - - - 19
CPU: 4 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
- (avg/sec) (avg/sec) (avg/sec) -
User 5 4 4 85.4M
Niced 0 0 0 1.9K
System 2 2 2 32.3M
Idle 93 94 94 1.4G
Irq 0 0 0 0
Softirq 0 0 0 11.8K
Iowait 0 0 0 195.8K
Stolen 0 0 0 0
Util% (last 5 sec) - - - 7
CPU: 5 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
- (avg/sec) (avg/sec) (avg/sec) -
User 14 11 11 151.4M
Niced 0 0 0 314.3K
System 0 0 0 22.4M
Idle 84 87 87 1.4G
Irq 0 0 0 0
Softirq 0 0 0 88.8K
Iowait 0 0 0 1.6M
Stolen 0 0 0 0
Util% (last 5 sec) - - - 15
CPU: 6 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
- (avg/sec) (avg/sec) (avg/sec) -
User 4 4 4 80.8M
Niced 0 0 0 4.8K
System 2 2 1 29.3M
Idle 93 93 93 1.4G
Irq 0 0 0 0
Softirq 0 0 0 10.5K
Iowait 0 0 0 213.3K
Stolen 0 0 0 0
Util% (last 5 sec) - - - 5
CPU: 7 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
- (avg/sec) (avg/sec) (avg/sec) -
User 20 12 12 135.0M
Niced 0 0 0 359.9K
System 0 0 0 10.8M
Idle 79 87 87 1.4G
Irq 0 0 0 0
Softirq 0 0 0 88.2K
Iowait 0 0 0 702.9K
Stolen 0 0 0 0
Util% (last 5 sec) - - - 20
CPU: 8 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
- (avg/sec) (avg/sec) (avg/sec) -
User 0 0 0 192.9K
Niced 0 0 0 0
System 0 0 0 4.9M
Idle 99 99 99 1.5G
Irq 0 0 0 0
Softirq 0 0 0 867
Iowait 0 0 0 14.8K
Stolen 0 0 0 0
Util% (last 5 sec) - - - 1
CPU: 9 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
- (avg/sec) (avg/sec) (avg/sec) -
User 7 5 5 63.8M
Niced 0 0 0 735.9K
System 1 1 1 7.5M
Idle 92 93 94 1.5G
Irq 0 0 0 0
Softirq 0 0 0 180.9K
Iowait 0 0 0 962.7K
Stolen 0 0 0 0
Util% (last 5 sec) - - - 8
CPU: 10 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
- (avg/sec) (avg/sec) (avg/sec) -
User 0 0 0 15
Niced 0 0 0 0
System 0 0 0 1.9M
Idle 100 100 100 1.5G
Irq 0 0 0 0
Softirq 0 0 0 1.6K
Iowait 0 0 0 25.2K
Stolen 0 0 0 0
Util% (last 5 sec) - - - 0
CPU: 11 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
- (avg/sec) (avg/sec) (avg/sec) -
User 6 6 5 58.1M
Niced 1 0 0 2.4M
System 2 1 1 8.6M
Idle 91 92 94 1.5G
Irq 0 0 0 0
Softirq 0 0 0 179.7K
Iowait 0 0 0 1.0M
Stolen 0 0 0 0
Util% (last 5 sec) - - - 8
(END)
In BASH mode run the following , in my i7800 i can see same 12 CPU, 0-11 as above command output.
[root@i7800-F5-IA:Active:Standalone] ~ # ~ # tmctl cpu_info_stat -s 'cpu_id,five_sec_avg.ratio'
cpu_id five_sec_avg.ratio
------ ------------------
0 6
1 22
2 11
3 55
4 7
5 15
6 5
7 11
8 1
9 8
10 0
11 9
In TMSH mode run the following
root@(i7800-F5-IA)(cfg-sync Standalone)(Active)(/Common)(tmos)# show sys hardware
Sys::Hardware
Appliance Fan Status
Index Status
1 up
2 up
3 up
4 up
5 up
6 up
7 up
8 up
9 up
10 up
11 up
12 up
Humidity Status
Index Relative Humidity(%)
1 52
Appliance Information
Maximum MAC Count 3
Registration Key -
Appliance Power Supply Status
Index Status Current
1 up AC
2 up AC
Inlet Temperature Status
Index Lo Limit(C) Temp(degC) Hi Limit(C) Location
1 0 19 45 Chassis Inlet 2
Hardware Version Information
Name HD1
Type physical-disk
Model SAMSUNG MZ7KM480HMHQ-00005
Parameters -- --
SerialNumber XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Size 447.13G
Firmware Version GXM5104Q
Media Type SSD
Hardware Version Information
Name aom
Type aom
Model F5 BMC
Parameters -- --
Active Firmware 8.00
Backup Firmware 8.00
Boot loader version 3.02
Hardware Version Information
Name cpld
Type cpld
Model F5 CPLD
Parameters -- --
version 0x57
Hardware Version Information
Name cpus
Type base-board
Model Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1650 v4 @ 3.60GHz
Parameters -- --
cache size 15360 KB
cores 12 (physical:6)
cpu MHz 3601.000
cpu sockets 1
cpu stepping 1
Hardware Version Information
Name hsb_lbb0
Type net
Model F5 High Speed Bridge LBB device
Parameters -- --
version Build: 5.6.9 lab 0
Name hsb_lbb1
Type net
Model F5 High Speed Bridge LBB device
Parameters -- --
version Build: 5.6.9 lab 0
Hardware Version Information
Name lcd
Type touchscreen
Model F5 LCD
Parameters -- --
Boot loader version 2.01
Firmware version 3.00
Name mainboard
Type base-board
Model F5
Parameters -- --
Assembly serial xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Part number PCA-xxxx-03 REV A
Hardware Version Information
Name pol_hsb0
Type pol
Model F5 HSB POL
Parameters -- --
Version 0.4
Name pol_hsb1
Type pol
Model F5 HSB POL
Parameters -- --
Version 0.4
Hardware Version Information
Name psu1
Type psu
Model M1845
Parameters -- --
Firmware Revision Floating 9154xxxxxxx-00-00
Firmware Revision Primary 91xxxxx1845-12-01
Firmware Revision Secondary 91xxxxxx1845-19-01
Location 1
Manufacturer Murata-PS
Revision N/A
Serial number xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Name psu2
Type psu
Model M1845
Parameters -- --
Firmware Revision Floating 9154xxxxxxx-00-00
Firmware Revision Primary 9151xxxxxx-12-01
Firmware Revision Secondary 9157xxxxxx-19-01
Location 2
Manufacturer Murata-PS
Revision N/A
Serial number xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hardware Version Information
Name qat-01
Type coproc
Model Coleto Creek DHxxxxCL Crypto/Compression Coprocessor A0
Parameters -- --
version FW: 2.2.0
Platform
Name BIG-IP i7800
BIOS Revision OBJ-xxxx-xx BIOS: 5.20.030.0 ME: 6.0.50.1252 05/06/2019
Base MAC f4:15:xx:f3:xx:xx
PVA Version 20
System Information
Type C118
Appliance Serial f5-xxxx-xxxx
Part Number 5xx-xxxx-03 REV M
Host Board Serial pcaxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Host Board Part Revision
root@(i7800-F5-IA)(cfg-sync Standalone)(Active)(/Common)(tmos)# bash
[root@i7800-F5-IA:Active:Standalone] ~ # tmsh show sys hardware
Sys::Hardware
Appliance Fan Status
Index Status
1 up
2 up
3 up
4 up
5 up
6 up
7 up
8 up
9 up
10 up
11 up
12 up
Humidity Status
Index Relative Humidity(%)
1 52
Appliance Information
Maximum MAC Count 3
Registration Key -
Appliance Power Supply Status
Index Status Current
1 up AC
2 up AC
Inlet Temperature Status
Index Lo Limit(C) Temp(degC) Hi Limit(C) Location
1 0 19 45 Chassis Inlet 2
Hardware Version Information
Name HD1
Type physical-disk
Model SAMSUNG MZ7KMxxxHMHQ-xxxxx5
Parameters -- --
SerialNumber XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Size 447.13G
Firmware Version GXMxxx4Q
Media Type SSD
Hardware Version Information
Name aom
Type aom
Model F5 BMC
Parameters -- --
Active Firmware 8.00
Backup Firmware 8.00
Boot loader version 3.02
Hardware Version Information
Name cpld
Type cpld
Model F5 CPLD
Parameters -- --
version 0x57
Hardware Version Information
Name cpus
Type base-board
Model Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1650 v4 @ 3.60GHz
Parameters -- --
cache size 15360 KB
cores 12 (physical:6)
cpu MHz 3601.000
cpu sockets 1
cpu stepping 1
Hardware Version Information
Name hsb_lbb0
Type net
Model F5 High Speed Bridge LBB device
Parameters -- --
version Build: 5.6.9 lab 0
Name hsb_lbb1
Type net
Model F5 High Speed Bridge LBB device
Parameters -- --
version Build: 5.6.9 lab 0
Hardware Version Information
Name lcd
Type touchscreen
Model F5 LCD
Parameters -- --
Boot loader version 2.01
Firmware version 3.00
Name mainboard
Type base-board
Model F5
Parameters -- --
Assembly serial pcaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Part number PCA-xxxx-0x REV A
Hardware Version Information
Name pol_hsb0
Type pol
Model F5 HSB POL
Parameters -- --
Version 0.4
Name pol_hsb1
Type pol
Model F5 HSB POL
Parameters -- --
Version 0.4
Hardware Version Information
Name psu1
Type psu
Model M1845
Parameters -- --
Firmware Revision Floating 9154000000-00-00
Firmware Revision Primary 9151001845-12-01
Firmware Revision Secondary 9157001845-19-01
Location 1
Manufacturer Murata-PS
Revision N/A
Serial number Sxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Name psu2
Type psu
Model M1845
Parameters -- --
Firmware Revision Floating 9154000000-00-00
Firmware Revision Primary 9151001845-12-01
Firmware Revision Secondary 9157001845-19-01
Location 2
Manufacturer Murata-PS
Revision N/A
Serial number Sxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hardware Version Information
Name qat-01
Type coproc
Model Coleto Creek DH8955CL Crypto/Compression Coprocessor A0
Parameters -- --
version FW: 2.2.0
Platform
Name BIG-IP i7800
BIOS Revision OBJ-0645-xx BIOS: 5.20.030.0 ME: 6.0.50.1252 05/06/2019
Base MAC f4:xx:xx:f3:xx:00
PVA Version 20
System Information
Type C118
Appliance Serial f5-xxxx-xxxx
Part Number 5xxx-xxx3-03 REV M
Host Board Serial pcaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Host Board Part Revision
root@(i7800-F5-IA)(cfg-sync Standalone)(Active)(/Common)(tmos)# list sys
Options:
all-properties current-module non-default-properties one-line recursive |
Modules:
application daemon-log-settings disk ecm fpga ipfix pfman software url-db
crypto diags dynad file icall log-config sflow turboflex
Components:
aom core dns ha-group log-rotate management-proxy-config provision snmp telemd
autoscale-group daemon-ha feature-module httpd management-dhcp management-route scriptd sshd ucs
cluster datastor folder icontrol-soap management-ip ntp service state-mirroring
config db global-settings internal-proxy management-ovsdb outbound-smtp smtp-server syslog
root@(i7800-F5-IA)(cfg-sync Standalone)(Active)(/Common)(tmos)# list sys core
Options:
all-properties non-default-properties one-line |
Properties:
bigd-action bigd-manage bigd-max mcpd-action mcpd-manage mcpd-max retention tmm-action tmm-manage tmm-max {
root@(i7800-F5-IA)(cfg-sync Standalone)(Active)(/Common)(tmos)# list sys core
sys core {
bigd-action rotate
bigd-manage false
bigd-max 1
mcpd-action rotate
mcpd-manage false
mcpd-max 1
retention 30
tmm-action rotate
tmm-manage false
tmm-max 1
}
root@(i7800-F5-IA)(cfg-sync Standalone)(Active)(/Common)(tmos)# list sys core all-properties
sys core {
bigd-action rotate
bigd-manage false
bigd-max 1
mcpd-action rotate
mcpd-manage false
mcpd-max 1
retention 30
tmm-action rotate
tmm-manage false
tmm-max 1
}
root@(i7800-F5-IA)(cfg-sync Standalone)(Active)(/Common)(tmos)#
HTH
F5 Design Engineer
Thank you for the detailed explanation!
I followed all the suggested commands, and after running them on my system, I can confirm that my setup also shows only "12" CPUs. Your guidance helped me clarify the situation.
Below is part of the commands output:
[mshoaib@XXXXXXXXX:Active:Standalone] ~ # tmsh show sys cpu all | grep "CPU:"
CPU: 0 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
CPU: 1 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
CPU: 2 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
CPU: 3 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
CPU: 4 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
CPU: 5 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
CPU: 6 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
CPU: 7 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
CPU: 8 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
CPU: 9 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
CPU: 10 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
CPU: 11 (clock ticks) Last 5 sec Last 1 min Last 5 min Total
[mshoaib@XXXXXXXXX:Active:Standalone] ~ #
[mshoaib@XXXXXXXXX:Active:Standalone] ~ # tmsh show sys hardware
......
......
Hardware Version Information
Name cpus
Type base-board
Model Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1650 v4 @ 3.60GHz
Parameters -- --
cache size 15360 KB
cores 12 (physical:6)
cpu MHz 3601.000
cpu sockets 1
cpu stepping 1
xxxxxxx
xxxxxxx
Platform
Name BIG-IP i7800
BIOS Revision OBJ-0645-xx BIOS: 5.20.030.0 ME: 6.0.50.1252 05/06/2019
Base MAC 00:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
PVA Version 20
xxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxx
I plan to remove the "Guest" VM on the unit to address the discrepancy on the GUI.
- Sep 27, 2024
Hi Mshoaib,
Thanks for the update.
I would highly recommend not to try to deploy one Guest showing 2 extra vCPU without consulting in F5 TAC by opening a TAC case for your situation about 14 vCPU displaying in GUI, it may cause unexpected results for your 2 other vCMP guest may got crashed or contingency in prod environment can cause further outage.
As per F5 documentation there are 12 vCPU mentioned every where so in case if you try to add one more vCMP guest showing with available 2 extra vCPU, in case if it fails the F5 TAC may not support your case based on the documentation.
I would not recommend to take a change which contains lots of risk.
You can still open a TAC case before to get a confirmation if its a software glitch or is it possible to use 2 additional vCPU as showing in the GUI, to save the situation.
In My GUI have used 8 vCPU and if i try to create a new vCMP guest the available cores it is showing as 6, that means total 14 vCPU cores in GUI , but i have a production boxes so i cant try making a new vCMP guest which could use remaining 6 vCPU cores, it may crash my i7800 Software/hardware as i face already Hardware crash during OS upgrade from 14.x to 15.x which they said first reboot a box before upgrade a normal plain upgrade and after that try OS upgrade from 14.x to 15.x and it was successful, with no hardware failure on the physical host i7800.
That all i can share for the moment as we don't have test boxes in test LAB for i7800 so my comments for 14 vCPU showing in GUI will not be a right as my answer will not be base on real test results whether it will fail or not if i try to use all 14 vCPU instead of 12 vCPU as per the CLI or as per the f5 i7800 documentation for 12 vCPU cores available.
If my replies help you answer your query , could you please mark my reply as solution so that it will be helpful for our blog other viewers.
Please feel free to reach out to me for any further discussion on this topic any time, and i will be glad to assist you.
HTH
Best regards,
F5 Design Engineer.
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