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We have both HTTP and HTTPS for each VIP but there is a HTTP to HTTPS redirect iRule applied to the HTTP VIPs. \n I'm trying various iterations of ordering the two iRules on the HTTP VIP but not having any success. \n The end goal is twofold: \n block TLSv1.0 traffic send any TLSv1.0 traffic to our HTML page \n There's clearly something conflicting but I'm not able to determine how to resolve. \n I appreciate any assistance that can be provided. \n Diane ","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})@stringLength":"1419","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":1,"readOnly":false,"images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"videos":{"__typename":"VideoConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Conversation:conversation:149369":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:149369","topic":{"__typename":"ForumTopicMessage","uid":149369},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2023-06-05T15:44:24.418-07:00","solved":true},"User:user:381564":{"__typename":"User","uid":381564,"login":"jfotopoulos_278","registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null},"deleted":false,"avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.f5.com/t5/s/zihoc95639/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg"},"id":"user:381564"},"ForumTopicMessage:message:149369":{"__typename":"ForumTopicMessage","subject":"HTTPS/SSL failing on Windows clients","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:149369"},"id":"message:149369","revisionNum":2,"uid":149369,"depth":0,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:381564"},"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1024},"postTime":"2016-11-08T04:00:45.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-06-05T15:44:24.418-07:00","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})":" Hi, \n we have recently purchased a BigIP VE (12.1) and are initially configuring it, but we are having a very strange problem where any browser from a mac or a linux client can successfully connect to our https site, but any client(chrome, firefox, IE) on any windows machine cannot. That has been tested on 3 different Windows versions (server 2012, windows 8 & windows 10). \n We are trying to setup multiple sites on a single VS (exactly as in: Configuring a virtual server to serve multiple HTTPS sites using the TLS Server Name Indication feature) \n Again, after this configuration was completed, everything was working correctly, except on windows systems. So, we tried the steps mentioned here: \nTroubleshooting SSL/TLS handshake failures\nThe dump got all the way to the first \napplication data packet and then was reset (TCP RST). \n In the ltm log file we found the following message: Connection error: ssl_hs_rxhello:5771: unsupported version \nSo, after googling around, I fell onto this link (\nssl handshake issue, so I tried to enable sslv3, just to try it out (added DEFAULT:SSLv3 to the base ssl profile). But nothing changed. \n The ssldump session gets a reset and doesn't show anything else that looks strange.\nEverything seams normal, except for a duplicate ACK and then a reset (in the wireshark session). \n I have also tested the ssl communication with the\nqualys ssl checker, which also tests various browser versions on various builds. All good here, too. \n Another thing that I should mention is that the certificates facing this issue are all from GoDaddy. Certificates from other CAs work flawlessly. But they only have issues on the BigIP. On nginx and apache there are no issues. \n Thanks in advance for any replies ","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})@stringLength":"1750","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":3,"readOnly":false,"images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"videos":{"__typename":"VideoConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Conversation:conversation:25003":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:25003","topic":{"__typename":"ForumTopicMessage","uid":25003},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2023-06-03T11:33:14.763-07:00","solved":false},"User:user:104882":{"__typename":"User","uid":104882,"login":"mreco_159588","registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null},"deleted":false,"avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.f5.com/t5/s/zihoc95639/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg"},"id":"user:104882"},"ForumTopicMessage:message:25003":{"__typename":"ForumTopicMessage","subject":"RDP connection via application access fails when client certificate is set to require","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:25003"},"id":"message:25003","revisionNum":2,"uid":25003,"depth":0,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:104882"},"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":523},"postTime":"2017-04-13T23:12:54.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-06-03T11:33:14.763-07:00","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})":" I've set up a VIP with a client SSL profile that requires a certificate.\nThe access policy on this VIP has some resource assignments: network access, rdp application access and rdp via app tunnel access.\nAll of these resources work just fine, except the rdp application access.\nThe connection is not established and the handshake gives this failure: \n TLSv1.2 Record Layer: Handshake Protocol: Multiple Handshake Messages\n Content Type: Handshake (22)\n Version: TLS 1.2 (0x0303)\n Length: 269\n Handshake Protocol: Certificate\n Handshake Type: Certificate (11)\n Length: 3\n Certificates Length: 0\n Handshake Protocol: Client Key Exchange\n \n\n However, another resource works just fine: \n TLSv1.2 Record Layer: Handshake Protocol: Multiple Handshake Messages\n Content Type: Handshake (22)\n Version: TLS 1.2 (0x0303)\n Length: 269\n Handshake Protocol: Certificate\n Handshake Type: Certificate (11)\n Length: 3\n Certificates Length: 2647\n Handshake Protocol: Client Key Exchange\n \n\n In the first capture, the certificate length is 0. In the second one it is 2647. \n Now, I've set the client SSL profile to 'request' and all resources work just fine. \n Can someone shed some light on this issue? Why does it fail when set to 'require'? 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The problem is, when I apply the second profile, it says: \n 0107149c:3: Virtual server /ESAI/lb-drupal-tuftsmagazine.tufts.edu-443 has more than one clientssl/serverssl profile but none of them is default for SNI.\n \n\n By searching these forums, (in particular this page it seems I need to add Server Name to the client ssl profile, but that field isn't present on my system. On the ssl client profile page, there is no \"Server Name\" field, no mention of SNI anywhere on the page. \n Is this a licensed feature, or something I don't have? Has the control been relocated in my version of Big-IP? Or something? \n Thanks... ","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})@stringLength":"708","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":2,"readOnly":false,"images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"videos":{"__typename":"VideoConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Conversation:conversation:133549":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:133549","topic":{"__typename":"ForumTopicMessage","uid":133549},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2023-06-03T10:00:58.608-07:00","solved":true},"User:user:175412":{"__typename":"User","uid":175412,"login":"Stefan_Klotz_85","registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null},"deleted":false,"avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.f5.com/t5/s/zihoc95639/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg"},"id":"user:175412"},"ForumTopicMessage:message:133549":{"__typename":"ForumTopicMessage","subject":"Need help with SSL handshake failure and client certificates","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:133549"},"id":"message:133549","revisionNum":2,"uid":133549,"depth":0,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:175412"},"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1108},"postTime":"2017-06-29T14:34:50.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-06-03T10:00:58.608-07:00","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})":" Hi, \n we are using a clientSSL-profile with client certificate set to require and also configured the trusted/allowed CA. When connecting to this VS with a valid client certificate we are ending up with a SSL handshake failure. When we remove this option and using just \"normal\" SSL handshake, everything is working fine, means there is at least no issues with the ciphers and SSL protocol. We are also using the same setup in a different region and there everything is working fine. I'm not 100% sure, which might be different in the two regions, but at least clients and F5s are using the same software/version. \n We also performed a tcpdump and a ssldump and saw the following strange thing (Not enough data.😞 \n 1 1 0.0756 (0.0756) C>S Handshake\n ClientHello\n Version 3.3 \n cipher suites\n Unknown value 0xc02f\n Unknown value 0xc02b\n Unknown value 0xc030\n Unknown value 0xc02c\n Unknown value 0xc027\n Unknown value 0xc023\n Unknown value 0xc028\n Unknown value 0xc024\n Unknown value 0xc013\n Unknown value 0xc009\n Unknown value 0xc014\n Unknown value 0xc00a\n Unknown value 0x9e\n Unknown value 0xa2\n Unknown value 0x9f\n Unknown value 0xa3\n TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256\n TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256\n TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256\n TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256\n TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA\n TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA\n TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA\n TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA\n Unknown value 0x9c\n Unknown value 0x9d\n TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256\n TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256\n TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA\n TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA\n Unknown value 0xc012\n Unknown value 0xc008\n TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA\n TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA\n TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA\n Unknown value 0xff\n compression methods\n NULL\n1 2 0.0756 (0.0000) S>C Handshake\n ServerHello\n Version 3.3 \n session_id[32]=\n 0e c8 c2 ce da 55 22 f3 cd 5d ab 0d 32 31 bb 29 \n 9b 0a 63 97 2e 9a 71 6b 2c 9a 52 e7 1f ec 5b c7 \n cipherSuite TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256\n compressionMethod NULL\n1 3 0.0756 (0.0000) S>C Handshake\n Certificate\n1 4 0.0756 (0.0000) S>C Handshake\n CertificateRequest\n certificate_types rsa_sign\n certificate_types dss_sign\n certificate_types unknown value\nNot enough data. Found 221 bytes (expecting 32767)\n1 5 0.0756 (0.0000) S>C Handshake\n ServerHelloDone\n1 6 0.2462 (0.1705) S>C Alert\nlevel fatal\nvalue handshake_failure\n1 0.2462 (0.0000) S>C TCP FIN\n \n\n Is this maybe indicating the issue and if yes, what does it mean or where does it come from? \n If not, how can we further troubleshot this? As I personally don't have direct access to the affected F5, I also don't know the latest status, but we at least agreed to set the SSL log-level to debug. Are there any further tips you can provide? Maybe also something, which can/should be checked on the client? \n Maybe a stupid question, but can this also be related to some issues on network level between client and F5 or are such handshake failures definitely only related to correct client and F5 settings? \n Thank you! \n Ciao Stefan 🙂 ","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})@stringLength":"3362","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":5,"readOnly":false,"images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"videos":{"__typename":"VideoConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Conversation:conversation:155646":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:155646","topic":{"__typename":"ForumTopicMessage","uid":155646},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2023-06-02T08:12:04.147-07:00","solved":false},"User:user:252141":{"__typename":"User","uid":252141,"login":"Pstryk_372935","registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null},"deleted":false,"avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.f5.com/t5/s/zihoc95639/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg"},"id":"user:252141"},"ForumTopicMessage:message:155646":{"__typename":"ForumTopicMessage","subject":"Sync failed: ClientSSL profile (/Common/clientssl) cannot get its defaults from ()","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:155646"},"id":"message:155646","revisionNum":2,"uid":155646,"depth":0,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:252141"},"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":514},"postTime":"2018-10-18T03:58:52.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-06-02T08:12:04.147-07:00","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})":" After some config changes (also in clientssl), I want to sync, but it looks like it does not work: \n Sync Failed\nA validation error occurred while syncing to a remote device\n\nSync error on DCLB01: Load failed from /Common/DCLB02 01071a12:3: ClientSSL profile (/Common/clientssl) cannot get its defaults from (), as it doesn't exist.\n\nRecommended action: Review the error message and determine corrective action on the device\n \n\n I've tried to revert all changes in clientssl profile, but it does not work.\nI've tried to overwrite the config, by the second device in HA group, but id doesn't work either. \n Any help much appreciated. ","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})@stringLength":"636","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":8,"readOnly":false,"images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"videos":{"__typename":"VideoConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Conversation:conversation:178996":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:178996","topic":{"__typename":"ForumTopicMessage","uid":178996},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2022-11-22T15:37:20.543-08:00","solved":false},"User:user:87123":{"__typename":"User","uid":87123,"login":"Ryan_34424","registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null},"deleted":false,"avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.f5.com/t5/s/zihoc95639/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg"},"id":"user:87123"},"ForumTopicMessage:message:178996":{"__typename":"ForumTopicMessage","subject":"LTM :: SSL Client Authentication :: Lock Out","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:178996"},"id":"message:178996","revisionNum":2,"uid":178996,"depth":0,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:87123"},"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":254},"postTime":"2017-04-14T09:34:23.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2022-11-22T15:37:20.543-08:00","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})":" Has anybody implemented any controls on their LTMs that prohibits a source from repeatedly authenticating to a virtual server that requires SSL client authentication? \n Granted... the ability to brute-force a 2048 bit key signed with sha256 from an internal/protected PKI is going to be rather... umm... difficult. However I don't want to give any prospects of a snow ball's slight chance in Mojave to induce any sort of undesirable condition (DoS, failure of authentication logic, unknown bugs... whatever it is). I want to slow that process down so it can either be detected earlier or prevented as a whole - of course. Plus, I'm an overly paranoid soul who simply rather not provide the ability for random sources to pound on the door at-will. \n That being said... anybody share that concern? Has anybody done anything to put controls in place to limit failed SSL client authentication? \n In my scenario, nobody should be touching the VS unless they have an approved mobile device that is part of our MDM with a certificate acquired by our PKI (SCEP). In light of that, I have zero regard for the gracefulness of client rejection. \n There might be something built-in to accommodate this scenario... but I'm not aware of it. I was initially thinking iRule, so I just dove right into it. \n I'm no programmer... but I'm thinking something along these lines (warning: this code has not been tested!). Would love any constructive feedback on any of the above or below! \n Thanks 🐵 \n when RULE_INIT {\n set static::ip_lockout_attempts 3 \n set static::ip_lockout_xtimeout 900\n}\n\nwhen CLIENT_ACCEPTED {\n set client_ip [IP::client_addr]\n set hsl [HSL::open -proto UDP -pool syslog.pool]\n\n set bad_cert_count [table lookup -notouch $client_ip]\n if { $bad_cert_count == {} } {\n table add $client_ip 0 $static::ip_lockout_xtimeout\n } elseif { $bad_cert_count < $static::ip_lockout_attempts } {\n table lookup $client_ip\n } else {\n reject\n set time_remaining [expr { [table timeout -remaining $client_ip] / 60 }]\n HSL::send $hsl \":: SSL_REJECT :: Source IP $client_ip has been locked out. Time remaining: $time_remaining minutes.\"\n }\n}\n\nwhen CLIENTSSL_CLIENTCERT {\n if { [SSL::cert count] > 0 } {\n set cert_result [X509::verify_cert_error_string [SSL::verify_result]]\n if { $cert_result eq \"ok\" } {\n table delete $client_ip\n } else {\n table incr $client_ip\n HSL::send $hsl \":: SSL_REJECT :: Client certificate from $client_ip rejected.\"\n }\n } else {\n table incr $client_ip\n HSL::send $hsl \":: SSL_REJECT :: Client certificate from $client_ip not supplied to virtual server.\"\n }\n}\n \n\n Theory and base code borrowed from Jason Rahm and Stephanie via DevCentral. ","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})@stringLength":"2781","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":2,"readOnly":false,"images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"videos":{"__typename":"VideoConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Conversation:conversation:266862":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:266862","topic":{"__typename":"ForumTopicMessage","uid":266862},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2022-08-09T08:51:00.923-07:00","solved":false},"User:user:273435":{"__typename":"User","uid":273435,"login":"svs","registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null},"deleted":false,"avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.f5.com/t5/s/zihoc95639/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg"},"id":"user:273435"},"ForumTopicMessage:message:266862":{"__typename":"ForumTopicMessage","subject":"SSL client profile - certificate authentication - multiple CRL files","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:266862"},"id":"message:266862","revisionNum":1,"uid":266862,"depth":0,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:273435"},"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1011},"postTime":"2019-01-21T13:00:24.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-01-21T13:00:24.000-08:00","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":true,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":true,\"removeTocMarkup\":true,\"truncateLength\":-1})":" Hi guys, \n currently I'm running a tests with certificate-based user authentication, using LTM/APM. 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