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lnxgeek's avatar
lnxgeek
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Mar 06, 2023

Bot Defense Deployment/Troubleshooting

Hi all I have started to push Botd more and more as a solution for fending off ddos attacks. However, I often end up with a lot of false positives or blocked or challenged requests which are ...
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Juergen_Mang's avatar
Juergen_Mang
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Mar 08, 2023

How do the false positive requests look like?

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    lnxgeek
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    Mar 13, 2023

    Hi Juergen

    Here are a couple of examples.

    This one is caught as a suspcious browser:

     

     

    POST /identity/connect/token HTTP/1.1
Host: xxx.domingo.dk
Connection: keep-alive
Content-Length: 121
sec-ch-ua: "Not;A=Brand";v="99", "Chromium";v="106"
device-type: 8
Bitwarden-Client-Version: 2023.2.0
sec-ch-ua-mobile: ?0
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/106.0.5249.181 Safari/537.36
content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded; charset=utf-8
accept: application/json
Bitwarden-Client-Name: desktop
sec-ch-ua-platform: "Linux"
Sec-Fetch-Site: cross-site
Sec-Fetch-Mode: cors
Sec-Fetch-Dest: empty
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br
Accept-Language: en-US

     

     

     This is the same:

     

     

    GET /api/accounts/revision-date HTTP/1.1
Host: xxx.domingo.dk
Connection: keep-alive
sec-ch-ua: "Not;A=Brand";v="99", "Chromium";v="106"
Pragma: no-cache
device-type: 8
Bitwarden-Client-Version: 2023.2.0
sec-ch-ua-mobile: ?0
authorization: Bearer xxxx
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/106.0.5249.181 Safari/537.36
accept: application/json
Cache-Control: no-store
Bitwarden-Client-Name: desktop
sec-ch-ua-platform: "Linux"
Sec-Fetch-Site: cross-sit

     

     

     

    This one is called an Android browser but is being challenged:

     

     

    POST /api/ciphers HTTP/1.1
Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8
Authorization: Bearer xxxxx
Accept: application/json
Device-Type: 0
Bitwarden-Client-Name: mobile
Bitwarden-Client-Version: 2023.2.0
User-Agent: Bitwarden_Mobile/2023.2.0 (Android 13; SDK 33; Model SM-G998B)
Accept-Encoding: identity
Cookie: TS9f79eae6029=0858c33216ab280069fed2335f832686f40bee553f364277a813f24ec7c741052c6dfd58c2e7e1949548e17d06aec041; TS7f78903d027=0858c33216ab20007d1ce8a65ebef8e54dd2bcec14433de6d8981b0e52e56dce619fda5b3bcb086
    POST /api/ciphers HTTP/1.1
Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8
Authorization: Bearer xxxx
Accept: application/json
Device-Type: 0
Bitwarden-Client-Name: mobile
Bitwarden-Client-Version: 2023.2.0
User-Agent: Bitwarden_Mobile/2023.2.0 (Android 13; SDK 33; Model SM-F721B)
Accept-Encoding: identity
Cookie: TS9f79eae6029=0858c33216ab2800f9a3ea0a88ee8d54455848012a8855571e4a03813af486c0dfc70243c46674171fc6c489f05e3781; TS9f79eae6078=0858c33216ab20007dd688a601902ab986ede4a8603a3cd1541458a19896ced1f2a3d26c8b431ea

     

     

    All requests are coming from the Bitwarden app on either a desktop pc or an Android App.

    • Nikoolayy1's avatar
      Nikoolayy1
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      Mar 14, 2023

      Have you tried enabling "api access for browsers and mobile applications" https://my.f5.com/manage/s/article/K42323285 ? Single Page Protection (SPA) needs to enabled for this as your Application could be also needed this if it is AJAX.

      Also do the POST requests have a body as maybe the F5 bot signatures don't like the lack of a Body in a POST request?

      My final thought is again if your app is SPA maybe the Javarscript generates some HTTP requests that have incorect HTTP header order or something like that and F5 Bot signatures don't like this.

       

      Also as you say " Android browser" could be a mobile application as this case F5 Bot SDK feature needs to be licenced ?