Configuring an Application for Smart Card Authentication and Forms Based SSO Using a Static Username and Password

A customer recently reached out requesting assistance providing smart card authentication to an application that does not integrate with AD or LDAP and has only a single username and password. While many of you out there may have done this in the past, I for one had not and of course I too was curious how I could make such a solution work. So with that, let's get to it.

In order to successfully deploy this solution, please configure the following prerequisites.

  • Local Traffic Manager licensed and provisioned
  • Access Policy Manager licensed and provisioned
  • CA certificate or a bundle of CA certs

Note: This CA cert or bundle will contain all CA certs which issued the client certificates you will be authenticating with.

  • OCSP IP address for certificate revocation checking

Configuring a LDAP AAA Resource

  • Navigate to Access > Authentication > LDAP and select Create
  • Name: Demo_LDAP_AAA
  • Server Connection: Direct
  • Base Port: 389
  • Admin DN: CN=admin,CN=Users,DC=demo,DC=lab
  • Leave all other settings at their defaults and select Finished

Configuring a OCSP AAA Resource

  • Navigate to Access > Authentication > OCSP Responder > Select Create
  • Name: Demo_OCSP
  • URL: http://OCSP_IP/ocsp
  • Certificate Authority File: Select the issuing CA Certificate
  • Leave all other settings at their defaults and select Finished

Creating a Webtop

  • Navigate to Access >> Webtops >> Webtop Lists: Create
  • From the drop down select Full for the type of Webtop you will be deploying, provide a name and select Finished.

Identify Form, Form Action and Form Parameters

In this scenario I used Firefox though your favorite browser can also be used. This data will be used to configure our SSO profile.

  • Lunch Firefox and browse to the application you are attempting to configure SSO for.
  • From the Firefox Menu bar, select Tools >> Web Developer >> Click Inspector

To make it easy to identify the form I simply clicked in the USERNAME or PASSWORD in fields in the web page and Inspector took me to that content.

  • Capture action: /console/j_spring_security_check
  • Capture method: POST
  • Capture input id for the username parameter
  • Capture input id for the password parameter

Create a Forms SSO Profile

  • Navigate to Access >> Single Sign-On >> Forms Based >> Click Create
  • Name: Demo_Web_App_Forms_SSO
  • User SSO Template: None
  • Username Source: session.sso.token.last.username
  • Password Source: session.sso.token.last.password
  • Start URI: This is URI of the application at the logon screen

  • Form Method: Post
  • Form Action: /console/j_spring_security_check
  • Form Parameter For User Name: username
  • Form Parameter For Password: password
  • Click Finished

Create a Portal Access Resource

  • Navigate to Access >> Connectivity / VPN >> Portal Access >> Portal Access List >> Click Create
  • Name: Demo_Web_App
  • Link Type: Application URI
  • Application URI: URI to your web application
  • Caption: Demo_Web_App
  • Click Create

After you click Create, the page will refresh and at the bottom of the screen you will then see an option to create Resource Items

  • Click Add
  • Destination: IP or Host Name of the web application
  • Link Type: Paths
  • Paths: /*
  • Scheme: https
  • SSO Configuration: Demo_Web_App_Forms_SSO
  • Click Finished

Create a Connectivity Profile

  • Navigate to Access >> Connectivity / VPN > Connectivity >> Profiles >> Click Add
  • Profile Name: Demo_CP
  • Parent Profile: connectivity
  • Click OK

Create Client Cert Access Policy

  • Navigate to Access > Profiles / Policies > Select Create
  • Name: Demo_cert_Auth
  • Profile Type: All
  • Profile Scope: Profile
  • Languages: Select your desired language and move it to Accepted Languages
  • Leave all other settings at their defaults and select Finished

Modify the Access Policy Using the Visual Policy Editor

  • From the Access > Profiles > Policies : Access Profiles (Per-Session Policies) page, select Edit from the access policy created in the previous step.

  • Between Start and Deny select the +
  • From the popup select the Authentication tab and select On_Demand Cert Auth > Add Item

  • You will be presented with an option to request or require a client present a client certificate. For this example, we will Require the client present a certificate.
  • Select Save

  • Following the successful branch of On Demand Cert Auth in the VPE, select +
  • From the Authentication tab, select OCSP Auth > Add Item
  • From the OCSP Responder drop down, select the OCSP AAA object created in previous steps.
  • Certificate Type: User
  • Click Save

  • Following the successful branch of OCSP Auth, select +
  • From the Assignment tab, select Variable Assign > Add Item

  • From the first empty Assignment, select Change
  • Custom Variable: session.sso.token.last.password
  • Select Secure from the drop down menu

Note: Unsecure or Secure specifies whether the variable is secure. A secure variable is stored in encrypted form in the session database. The value of a secure variable is not displayed in the session report, or logged by the logging agent.

  • Text: password
  • Select Finished

  • Under Variable Assign, select Add new entry > Change empty variable
  • Custom Variable: session.sso.token.last.username
  • Text: admin

  • Under Variable Assign, select Add new entry > Change empty variable
  • Custom Variable: session.logon.last.upn
  • Custom Expression:
set x509e_fields [split [mcget {session.ssl.cert.x509extension}] "\n"];  # For each element in the list:  foreach field $x509e_fields {  # If the element contains UPN:
if { $field contains "othername:UPN" } {  ## set start of UPN variable  set start [expr {[string first "<" $field] +1}]  # UPN format is   # Return the UPN, by finding the index of opening and closing brackets, then use string range to get everything between.  return [string range $field $start [expr { [string first ">" $field $start] - 1 } ] ];  } }  # Otherwise return UPN Not Found:  return "UPN-NOT-FOUND";
  • Select Finished > Save

  • Select Save

  • Following the fallback branch of Variable Assign, select +
  • From the Authentication tab, select LDAP Query > Add Item

  • From the Server drop down, select the LDAP AAA created in previous steps
  • SearchDN: CN=Users,DC=demo,DC=lab
  • SearchFilter: UserPrincipalName=%{session.logon.last.upn}
  • Fetch Groups to which the user or group below: Direct
  • Required Attributes: sAMAccountName
  • Required Attributes: memberOf

Note: sAMAccountName is not required for successful authentication as it is when performing Kerberos KCD though it can be useful to know who is logging in by name versus a long string of characters.

  • Navigate to the Branch Rules tab
  • Remove the existing Group Membership expression by selecting the X
  • Select Add Branch Rule
  • Name: LDAP Query Successful
  • Next to expression, select change
  • Agent Sel: LDAP Query
  • Condition: LDAP Query Passed
  • LDAP Query has: Passed
  • Select Add Expression > Finished

  • Click Save

  • Following the LDAP Query Successful branch, select +
  • From the Assignment tab, select SSO Credential Mapping > Add Item
  • SSO Token Username: mcget {session.sso.token.last.username}
  • SSO Token Password: mcget {session.sso.token.last.password}

  • Click Save
  • Following the SSO Credential Mapping branch select +
  • Select Advanced Resource Assign from the Assignment tab

  • Click Add new entry
  • Click Add/Delete

  • From the Portal Access tab, select the Demo_Web_App resource created in previous tasks.
  • From the Webtop tab, select the demo_webtop created in previous tasks.
  • Click Update
  • Click Save
  • From the fallback branch, select Deny
  • Change ending to Allow and click Save

At this point, you have a fully deployed VPE capable of supporting smart card authentication and have statically created a username and password that will be included in your HTTP Post to the web application.

  • Select Apply Policy

Configure SSL Client Profile

  • To support client certificate-based authentication, we must also create a Client SSL Profile on the BIG-IP using the steps below.
  • Navigate to Local Traffic > Profiles > SSL > Client > Create
  • Name: DemoSSLProfile
  • Certificate Key Chain: Place a check mark under the custom field. Click Add to select the appropriate cert/key pair.
  • Client Certificate: Leave it set to ignore as the APM ODCA will perform this function.
  • Trusted Certificate Authorities: Select the CA or CA bundle certificate
  • Advertised Certificate Authorities: Select the CA or CA bundle certificate

  • All other settings can be left at their defaults.
  • Click Finished

Create a Virtual Server for your Web Application

  • Navigate to Local Traffic >> Virtual Servers >> Click Create
  • Name: Demo_Web_App_VS
  • Destination Address: IP that users will connect to in order to access the web application
  • Service Port: 443
  • Protocol Profile (Client): f5-tcp-lan
  • HTTP Profile: http
  • SSL Profile (Client): DemoSSLProfile
  • SSL Profile (Server): serverssl

  • Source Address Translation: Automap
  • Rewrite Profile: rewrite_portal
  • Access Profile: Demo_cert_Auth
  • Connectivity Profile: Demo_CP

  • Click Finished

At this point, we have successfully configured all components required to support this use case so let's attempt access.

Validation Testing

  • From a browser navigate to the IP of your virtual server or the DNS name that resolves that IP
  • You should be prompted for user certificate

  • Select your user cert and Click OK
  • You should be presented with your Webtop

  • Click on the resource item and you should be redirected to that web application
  • If your configuration is correct, you will be logged in using the SSO credentials provided within the VPE and SSO profile.

In my first attempt I actually was not successful and received no logon error. This is likely one of 2 things, either I did not assign my SSO profile or the Start URI is incorrect. Let's validate

  • Validated SSO profile is assigned

Ahhh, now I see! Human error of course. I typed the Start URI incorrectly so, no there was no uri match.

After modifying the Start URI to the correct URI, I am now able to successfully login using the SSO configuration in this guide.

I am by no means saying this will be a common configuration though it is a use case that I have seen in the field more than once. As always, if it helps at least one of you out there it was well worth it. Until next time.

Published Dec 20, 2019
Version 1.0
  • I need a similar IRULE like the one posted by Aaron "for a different issue" but to redirect the IP address instead of the "www.app.mydomain.com"

     

     

    when HTTP_REQUEST { if { [string tolower [HTTP::host]] equals "www.app.mydomain.com" } { HTTP::redirect "http://app.mydomain.com" } }
  • Hi Maher,

    Here is an example which redirects clients who access the VIP with a hostname other than www.example.com:

     
     when HTTP_REQUEST { 
      
         Check if host header value is not www.example.com 
        if {not ([string tolower [HTTP::host]] eq "www.example.com")}{ 
      
            Send a 301 redirect 
           HTTP::respond 301 Location "http://www.example.com/" 
        } 
     } 
     

    Aaron
  • Thanks Aaron. I guess I replied before seeing your post. I used your other Irule and it works. I will try the last Irule you posted since it seems more general than specifying an IP address. Thanks again
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Summary

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When using F5 Distributed Cloud Services (F5 XC) to manage your Kubernetes (K8s) workloads, egress firewalling based on K8s namespaces or labels is easy. While network firewalls have no visibility into which K8s workload initiated outbound traffic - and therefore cannot apply security policies based on workload - we can use a platform like F5 XC Managed Kubernetes (mK8s) to achieve this.

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Introduction

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Applying security policies to outbound traffic is common practice. Security teams inspect Internet-bound traffic in order to detect/prevent Command & Control traffic, allow select users to browse select portions of the Internet, or for visibility into outbound traffic. Often the allow/deny decision is based on a combination of user, source IP, and destination website. Here's an awesome walk through of outbound inspection. 

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Typical outbound inspection performed by a network-based device.Typical outbound inspection performed by a network-based device.

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Network-based firewalls cannot do the same for K8s workloads because pods are ephemeral. They can be short-lived, their IP addresses are temporary and reused, and all pods on the same node making outbound connections will have the same source IP on the external network. In short, a network device cannot distinguish traffic from one pod versus another. 

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Which microservice is making this outbound request? Should it be allowed?Which microservice is making this outbound request? Should it be allowed?

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Problem statement

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In my cluster I have two apps, app1 and app2, in namespaces app1-ns and app2-ns.

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What about a Service Mesh?

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A service mesh will control traffic within your K8s cluster, both East-West (between services) and North-South (traffic to/from the cluster). Indeed, egress control is a feature of some service meshes, and a service mesh is a good solution to this problem. 

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Istio's egress control is a great starting point to read more about a service mesh with egress control. By using an egress gateway, Istio's sidecars will force traffic destined for a particular destination through a proxy, and this proxy can enforce Istio policies. This solves our problem, although I've heard customers voice reasonable concerns:

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What about a NetworkPolicy?

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A NetworkPolicy is a K8s resource that can define networking rules, including allow/deny rules by namespace, labels, src/dest pods, destination domains, etc. However NetworkPolicies must be enforced by the network plugin in your distribution (eg Calico), so they're not an option for everyone. They're also probably not a scalable solution when you consider the same concerns of service meshes above, but they are possible. Read more about NetworkPolicies for egress control with Istio, and check out this article from Monzo to see a potential solution involving NetworkPolicies.

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Other ideas

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Read the article from Monzo linked above to see what others have done. You could watch (or serve) DNS requests from Pods and then very quickly update outbound firewall rules to allow/disallow traffic to the IP address in the DNS response. NeuVector had a great article on this. You could also use a dedicated outbound proxy per domain name, as Monzo did, although this wouldn't scale to a large number, so some kind of exceptions would need to be made. I read an interesting article on Falco also, which is a tool that can monitor outbound connections from pods using eBPF. Generally speaking, these other ideas will bring the same concerns to teams without mesh skills: K8s and mesh networking can be unfamiliar and difficult to operate.

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Me and KubernetesMe and Kubernetes

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Solving egress control with F5 XC Managed Kubernetes

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Another way we can control outbound traffic specific to K8s namespace or labels is by using a K8s distribution that includes these features. In a technical sense, this works just like a mesh. By injecting a sidecar container for security controls into pods, the platform can control networking. However the mesh is not managed separately in this case. The security policies of the platform provide a GUI, easy reuse of policies, and generally an experience identical to that used for traditional egress control with the platform.

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Solving for our problem statement

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If I am using Virtual K8s (vK8s) or Managed K8s (mK8s), my pods are running on the F5 XC platform. These containers may be on-prem or in F5's PoPs, but the XC platform is natively aware of each pod. Here's how to solve our problem with XC when you have a managed K8s cluster.

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1. Firstly we will create a known key so we can have a label in XC to match a label we will apply to our K8s pods. I have created a known key egress-ruleset by following this how-to guide.

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2. For HTTP and HTTPS traffic, create a forward proxy policy. Since we want rules to apply to pods based on their labels, choose \"Custom Rule List\" when creating rules. Rule 1: set the source to be anything with a known label of egress-ruleset=app1 and allow access to TLS domain with suffix of github.com. Rule 2: Same as 1, but allow access to HTTP path of suffix github.com. Rules 3 and 4 are the same, but where the source endpoint matches egress-ruleset=app2. Rule 5, the last, can be a Deny All rule.

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3. For non HTTP(S) traffic, create multiple firewall policies for traffic ingressing, egressing, or originating from an F5 Gateway. I've recommended multiple policies because a policy applies to a group of endpoints defined by IP or label. I've used three policies in my examples (one for label egress-ruleset=app1 and another for app2, and one for all endpoints). Use the policies to allow TCP traffic as desired.

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4. Create and deploy a Managed K8s cluster and an App Stack site that is attached to this cluster. When creating the App Stack site, you can attached the policies you created from steps 1 and 2. You can have multiple policies layered in order, for policies of both types (forward proxy and firewall).

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5. Deploy your K8s workload and label your pods with egress-ruleset and a value of app1 or app2. Finally validate your policies are in effect by using kubectl exec against a pod running in your cluster.

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We have now demonstrated that outbound traffic from our pods is allowed only to destinations we have configured.

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We can now control outbound traffic specific to the microservice that is the source of the traffic.We can now control outbound traffic specific to the microservice that is the source of the traffic.

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Application namespaces

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Another way to solve this problem uses Namespaces only and not labels. If you create your Application Namespace in the XC console (not K8s Namespace) and deploy your workloads in the corresponding K8s namespace, you can use the built-in label of name.ves.io/namespaceThis means you won't need to create your own label (Step 1) but you will need to have a 1:1 relationship between K8s namespaces and Application Namespaces in XC. Plus, your granularity for endpoints is not fine-grained at the level of pod labels, but instead is at the namespace level.

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Further Reading

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Enterprise-level outbound firewalling from products like F5's SSLO will do more than simple egress control, such as selectively pass traffic to 3rd party inspection devices. Egress control in XC is not integrating with other devices, but the security controls fit the nature of typical microservices. Still, we could layer simple outbound rules performed in K8s with enterprise-wide inspection rules performed by SSLO for further control of outbound traffic, including integration with 3rd party devices.

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While this example used mK8s, I'll make note of another helpful article that explains how labels can be used for controlling network traffic when using Virtual K8s (vK8s).

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Conclusion

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Egress control for Kubernetes workloads, where security policy can be based on namespace labels, can be enforced with a service mesh that supports egress control, or a managed K8s solution like F5 XC that integrates network security policies natively into the K8s networking layer. Consider practical concerns, like management overhead and existing skill sets, and reach out if I or another F5'er can help explain more about egress control using F5 XC!

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Finally thank you to my colleague Steve Iannetta @netta2 who helped me prepare this. Please do reach out if you want to do this yourself or have more in-depth K8s traffic management questions.

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Summary

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When using F5 Distributed Cloud Services (F5 XC) to manage your Kubernetes (K8s) workloads, egress firewalling based on K8s namespaces or labels is easy. While network firewalls have no visibility into which K8s workload initiated outbound traffic - and therefore cannot apply security policies based on workload - we can use a platform like F5 XC Managed Kubernetes (mK8s) to achieve this.

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Introduction

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Applying security policies to outbound traffic is common practice. Security teams inspect Internet-bound traffic in order to detect/prevent Command & Control traffic, allow select users to browse select portions of the Internet, or for visibility into outbound traffic. Often the allow/deny decision is based on a combination of user, source IP, and destination website. Here's an awesome walk through of outbound inspection. 

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Typical outbound inspection performed by a network-based device.Typical outbound inspection performed by a network-based device.

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Network-based firewalls cannot do the same for K8s workloads because pods are ephemeral. They can be short-lived, their IP addresses are temporary and reused, and all pods on the same node making outbound connections will have the same source IP on the external network. In short, a network device cannot distinguish traffic from one pod versus another. 

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Which microservice is making this outbound request? Should it be allowed?Which microservice is making this outbound request? Should it be allowed?

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Problem statement

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In my cluster I have two apps, app1 and app2, in namespaces app1-ns and app2-ns.

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What about a Service Mesh?

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A service mesh will control traffic within your K8s cluster, both East-West (between services) and North-South (traffic to/from the cluster). Indeed, egress control is a feature of some service meshes, and a service mesh is a good solution to this problem. 

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Istio's egress control is a great starting point to read more about a service mesh with egress control. By using an egress gateway, Istio's sidecars will force traffic destined for a particular destination through a proxy, and this proxy can enforce Istio policies. This solves our problem, although I've heard customers voice reasonable concerns:

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What about a NetworkPolicy?

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A NetworkPolicy is a K8s resource that can define networking rules, including allow/deny rules by namespace, labels, src/dest pods, destination domains, etc. However NetworkPolicies must be enforced by the network plugin in your distribution (eg Calico), so they're not an option for everyone. They're also probably not a scalable solution when you consider the same concerns of service meshes above, but they are possible. Read more about NetworkPolicies for egress control with Istio, and check out this article from Monzo to see a potential solution involving NetworkPolicies.

\n

Other ideas

\n

Read the article from Monzo linked above to see what others have done. You could watch (or serve) DNS requests from Pods and then very quickly update outbound firewall rules to allow/disallow traffic to the IP address in the DNS response. NeuVector had a great article on this. You could also use a dedicated outbound proxy per domain name, as Monzo did, although this wouldn't scale to a large number, so some kind of exceptions would need to be made. I read an interesting article on Falco also, which is a tool that can monitor outbound connections from pods using eBPF. Generally speaking, these other ideas will bring the same concerns to teams without mesh skills: K8s and mesh networking can be unfamiliar and difficult to operate.

\n

Me and KubernetesMe and Kubernetes

\n

Solving egress control with F5 XC Managed Kubernetes

\n

Another way we can control outbound traffic specific to K8s namespace or labels is by using a K8s distribution that includes these features. In a technical sense, this works just like a mesh. By injecting a sidecar container for security controls into pods, the platform can control networking. However the mesh is not managed separately in this case. The security policies of the platform provide a GUI, easy reuse of policies, and generally an experience identical to that used for traditional egress control with the platform.

\n

Solving for our problem statement

\n

If I am using Virtual K8s (vK8s) or Managed K8s (mK8s), my pods are running on the F5 XC platform. These containers may be on-prem or in F5's PoPs, but the XC platform is natively aware of each pod. Here's how to solve our problem with XC when you have a managed K8s cluster.

\n

1. Firstly we will create a known key so we can have a label in XC to match a label we will apply to our K8s pods. I have created a known key egress-ruleset by following this how-to guide.

\n

2. For HTTP and HTTPS traffic, create a forward proxy policy. Since we want rules to apply to pods based on their labels, choose \"Custom Rule List\" when creating rules. Rule 1: set the source to be anything with a known label of egress-ruleset=app1 and allow access to TLS domain with suffix of github.com. Rule 2: Same as 1, but allow access to HTTP path of suffix github.com. Rules 3 and 4 are the same, but where the source endpoint matches egress-ruleset=app2. Rule 5, the last, can be a Deny All rule.

\n

3. For non HTTP(S) traffic, create multiple firewall policies for traffic ingressing, egressing, or originating from an F5 Gateway. I've recommended multiple policies because a policy applies to a group of endpoints defined by IP or label. I've used three policies in my examples (one for label egress-ruleset=app1 and another for app2, and one for all endpoints). Use the policies to allow TCP traffic as desired.

\n

4. Create and deploy a Managed K8s cluster and an App Stack site that is attached to this cluster. When creating the App Stack site, you can attached the policies you created from steps 1 and 2. You can have multiple policies layered in order, for policies of both types (forward proxy and firewall).

\n

5. Deploy your K8s workload and label your pods with egress-ruleset and a value of app1 or app2. Finally validate your policies are in effect by using kubectl exec against a pod running in your cluster.

\n

We have now demonstrated that outbound traffic from our pods is allowed only to destinations we have configured.

\n

We can now control outbound traffic specific to the microservice that is the source of the traffic.We can now control outbound traffic specific to the microservice that is the source of the traffic.

\n

Application namespaces

\n

Another way to solve this problem uses Namespaces only and not labels. If you create your Application Namespace in the XC console (not K8s Namespace) and deploy your workloads in the corresponding K8s namespace, you can use the built-in label of name.ves.io/namespaceThis means you won't need to create your own label (Step 1) but you will need to have a 1:1 relationship between K8s namespaces and Application Namespaces in XC. Plus, your granularity for endpoints is not fine-grained at the level of pod labels, but instead is at the namespace level.

\n

Further Reading

\n

Enterprise-level outbound firewalling from products like F5's SSLO will do more than simple egress control, such as selectively pass traffic to 3rd party inspection devices. Egress control in XC is not integrating with other devices, but the security controls fit the nature of typical microservices. Still, we could layer simple outbound rules performed in K8s with enterprise-wide inspection rules performed by SSLO for further control of outbound traffic, including integration with 3rd party devices.

\n

While this example used mK8s, I'll make note of another helpful article that explains how labels can be used for controlling network traffic when using Virtual K8s (vK8s).

\n

Conclusion

\n

Egress control for Kubernetes workloads, where security policy can be based on namespace labels, can be enforced with a service mesh that supports egress control, or a managed K8s solution like F5 XC that integrates network security policies natively into the K8s networking layer. Consider practical concerns, like management overhead and existing skill sets, and reach out if I or another F5'er can help explain more about egress control using F5 XC!

\n

Finally thank you to my colleague Steve Iannetta @netta2 who helped me prepare this. Please do reach out if you want to do this yourself or have more in-depth K8s traffic management questions.

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Well done. Very good article and insight. 

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Thanks Michael, very informative.

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while can i assme if client using OCP, and we  deploy CE Mesh as pod in OCP, then can also make the same Egress Control? thanks.

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https://docs.cloud.f5.com/docs/integrations/integrating-cloud-mesh-with-ocp

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Hi SamFok_hk 

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This article only applies to F5 XC and mK8s (Managed Kubernetes). If you bring your own cluster, like Openshift, and deploy a CE into it, I think you'd have to make some networking changes within the cluster to be able to use egress control in this way. So the short answer, I think, is no, the same egress control does not apply if using a CE Mesh as a pod in OCP.

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