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Apr 16, 2010

SSL Protocol Question

Before pursuing a potentially fruitless experiment, I thought I'd ask first. This is about the SSL/TLS protocol. Given: 1. A client with a valid certificate (issued to each user) -- C 2. A server wit...

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Apr 20, 2010

Hi Gregory,

Did you make any progress on this? In terms of LTM, if it is possible, I think you'd need to renegotiate the SSL handshake with the client and then disable the SSL filter if you wanted to pass the client cert through without doing the handshake on LTM.

Aaron

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