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Jun 21, 2006

Problem with persistence

I have a setup with a BIG-IP load balancer with 2 servers in a pool being load balanced. The URI that the user is connecting with contains a query parameter that is used for the persistence value. A...
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The iRule is pretty simple:

\nwhen HTTP_REQUEST {\n set fulluri [HTTP::uri]\n set uid [findstr [HTTP::uri] \"uid=\" 5 \"&\"]\n if { $uid != \"\" } {\n log local0. \"Set persist value to uid: $uid | $fulluri\"\n persist uie $uid\n }\n else {\n log local0. \"No uid found in HTTP REQUEST | $fulluri\"\n }\n}

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The logging that displays always shows the correct uid value. However, I get logging on both servers showing that they've gotten requests, and those logs show the same uid. BIG-IP stats also show that it's sending requests to both servers, thought the persistence table seems correct.

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Has anyone run into anything like this before? I can't find anything wrong with the iRule, and the requests are happening fast enough that the persistence values wouldn't be timing out.","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2006-06-21T10:17:21.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuNHwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:application delivery","text":"application delivery","time":"2021-06-30T01:48:44.000-07:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}},{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuNHwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDI","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:dev","text":"dev","time":"2022-01-24T02:29:45.108-08:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}},{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuNHwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDM","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:devops","text":"devops","time":"2011-10-19T17:50:55.000-07:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}},{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuNHwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDQ","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:iRules","text":"iRules","time":"2022-01-24T02:29:45.106-08:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:88350_2"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":760},"read":false,"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"I have a setup with a BIG-IP load balancer with 2 servers in a pool being load balanced. The URI that the user is connecting with contains a query parameter that is used for the persistence value. According to our logging the iRule is correctly extracting the value and setting the persistence, but requests with the same value don't always go to the same machine.

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The iRule is pretty simple:

\nwhen HTTP_REQUEST {\n  set fulluri [HTTP::uri]\n  set uid [findstr [HTTP::uri] \"uid=\" 5 \"&\"]\n  if { $uid != \"\" } {\n    log local0. \"Set persist value to uid: $uid  | $fulluri\"\n    persist uie $uid\n  }\n  else {\n    log local0. \"No uid found in HTTP REQUEST  | $fulluri\"\n  }\n}

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The logging that displays always shows the correct uid value. However, I get logging on both servers showing that they've gotten requests, and those logs show the same uid. BIG-IP stats also show that it's sending requests to both servers, thought the persistence table seems correct.

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Has anyone run into anything like this before? I can't find anything wrong with the iRule, and the requests are happening fast enough that the persistence values wouldn't be timing out."},"Conversation:conversation:88350":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:88350","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:88350"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2023-06-01T10:51:37.306-07:00","lastPostTime":"2017-10-27T09:05:34.000-07:00","unreadReplyCount":14,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:88350":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:88350","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:88350_2":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:88350_2","lastEditTime":"2023-06-01T10:51:37.306-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:88361":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:88361","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:88350"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:282100"},"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:88350/message:88361","revisionNum":2,"uid":88361,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"subject":"Re: Problem with persistence","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:88361"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:88350"},"body":"Ok, this is *really* weird.

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I modified the iRule to log what the current node in the persistence table is just before it does the `persist uie $uid` call. I also ssh'ed into the machine so I could get dumps of the persistence table. I then ran a few test connections with various uid values and between each I looked at the logs and the persistence table. I waited at least 10 seconds between each request so I could tell if the uid persistence timeout was being reset (indicating that that persistence was used). I generated a file that shows the logs for the request (there are 2 lines per request), then the results of `bigpipe persist show all` on the machine. I added the results of this below (edited a bit so the lines are so long). Here's the rule I used:

\nwhen HTTP_REQUEST {\n  set fulluri [HTTP::uri]\n  set uid [findstr [HTTP::uri] \"uid=\" 4 \"&\"]\n  if { $uid != \"\" } {\n    log local0. \"Set persist value to uid: $uid  | $fulluri\"\n    set currentPersist [persist lookup uie $uid node]\n    log local0. \"Current persist for $uid is $currentPersist\"\n    persist uie $uid\n  }\n  else {\n    log local0. \"No uid found in HTTP REQUEST  | $fulluri\"\n  }\n}

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What I found was that the first request and UID worked fine. The first request showed that there wasn't a value for the uid, and subsequent requests showed that there was. This is correct.

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Weird things started happening when I changed the uid value. All the later requests showed logging that it was finding and calling `persist uie $uid` with the correct values. However, the persistence record wasn't being added to the list, and the timeouts on the *old* uid was was being reset, suggesting it was using that persistence record instead. This continued to happen, even if I changed the uid value again.

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The only time it correctly used the new uid value seemed to be when I waited long enough for the old one to timeout and be removed (this is what happened with the last test).

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Does anyone have any ideas what could be causing this? At this point it looks like a problem with how BIG-IP is handling the call to `persist uie $uid`, as if it's ignoring the value I'm giving it.

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I modified the iRule to log what the current node in the persistence table is just before it does the `persist uie $uid` call. I also ssh'ed into the machine so I could get dumps of the persistence table. I then ran a few test connections with various uid values and between each I looked at the logs and the persistence table. I waited at least 10 seconds between each request so I could tell if the uid persistence timeout was being reset (indicating that that persistence was used). I generated a file that shows the logs for the request (there are 2 lines per request), then the results of `bigpipe persist show all` on the machine. I added the results of this below (edited a bit so the lines are so long). Here's the rule I used:

\nwhen HTTP_REQUEST {\n set fulluri [HTTP::uri]\n set uid [findstr [HTTP::uri] \"uid=\" 4 \"&\"]\n if { $uid != \"\" } {\n log local0. \"Set persist value to uid: $uid | $fulluri\"\n set currentPersist [persist lookup uie $uid node]\n log local0. \"Current persist for $uid is $currentPersist\"\n persist uie $uid\n }\n else {\n log local0. \"No uid found in HTTP REQUEST | $fulluri\"\n }\n}

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What I found was that the first request and UID worked fine. The first request showed that there wasn't a value for the uid, and subsequent requests showed that there was. This is correct.

\n

Weird things started happening when I changed the uid value. All the later requests showed logging that it was finding and calling `persist uie $uid` with the correct values. However, the persistence record wasn't being added to the list, and the timeouts on the *old* uid was was being reset, suggesting it was using that persistence record instead. This continued to happen, even if I changed the uid value again.

\n

The only time it correctly used the new uid value seemed to be when I waited long enough for the old one to timeout and be removed (this is what happened with the last test).

\n

Does anyone have any ideas what could be causing this? At this point it looks like a problem with how BIG-IP is handling the call to `persist uie $uid`, as if it's ignoring the value I'm giving it.

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The F5 Academy Roadshow is rolling into 19 cities (plus two virtual stops), and if you work with apps, APIs, or infrastructure, this event was built for you.

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