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Jul 31, 2012

Lync SSL Config

I'm using the newest deployment guide and iApp template for Lync 2010. I have a question regarding the "Front End Virtual Server" configuration in the iApp template. This section creates a VS on TCP/443 for the FE. The pool members are also 443. However, there are no SSL profiles assigned to the VS.

 

 

When I browse to the VS via HTTPS, I am presented the internal SSL certificate that IIS on the FE is using. Is this how the VS is supposed to be configured? Shouldn't it be using both client and server SSL profiles instead of just passing the encrypted data back to the FE servers?

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Josh

 

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When I browse to the VS via HTTPS, I am presented the internal SSL certificate that IIS on the FE is using. Is this how the VS is supposed to be configured? Shouldn't it be using both client and server SSL profiles instead of just passing the encrypted data back to the FE servers?

 

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So it's more efficient simply to pass it through.

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Ok, that makes sense. What about the actual web service traffic? Which VS does it use? Am I correct that internal clients should hit the FE VIPs directly, and not make use of the reverse proxy?

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Thanks","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"213","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2012-07-31T15:49:06.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2012-07-31T15:49:06.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":428},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:120825/message:120827","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:120828":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:120828","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:120828":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:19178"},"id":"message:120828","revisionNum":1,"uid":120828,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:120825"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:120825"},"subject":"Re: Lync SSL Config","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:120828"},"body":"I'm sorry, I got confused for a minute. It's the Edge scenario where the Access service uses port 443 but is really SIP traffic, and web services go through the reverse proxy. Internally, you do want to hit the FE 443 VIP for web services, with the exception of Lync Mobility. If Mobility is configured to allow external clients, internal Mobility clients actually need to get directed to the external reverse proxy VIP.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2012-08-01T07:24:32.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2012-08-01T07:24:32.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":427},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:120825/message:120828","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:120829":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:120829","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:120829":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:311353"},"id":"message:120829","revisionNum":1,"uid":120829,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:120825"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:120825"},"subject":"Re: Lync SSL Config","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:120829"},"body":"Ok, so the \"front_end_ip_443\" VIP should be configured for pass-through SSL, and not have any SSL profiles assigned to it? 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IIRC, because Lync doesn't allow offloading SSL and there's little to gain from decrypt-reencrypt, we pass it through.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"135","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2012-08-01T07:45:44.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2012-08-01T07:45:44.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":427},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:120825/message:120830","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:120831":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:120831","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:120831":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:311353"},"id":"message:120831","revisionNum":1,"uid":120831,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:120825"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:120825"},"subject":"Re: Lync SSL Config","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:120831"},"body":"Mike,

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Do you know if the edge servers external interfaces also require a copy of the CA signed SSL certificate? I was under the impression that only the BIG-IP needed it, and SSL would be terminated on there. But, MS' documentation is telling me differently.

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Thanks!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"213","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2012-08-01T08:56:17.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2012-08-01T08:56:17.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":426},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:120825/message:120831","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:230733":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:230733","uid":230733,"login":"Ryan_Korock_46","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-09-25T01:00:00.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.f5.com/t5/s/zihoc95639/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=0"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:47"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:zihoc95639/user:230733"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:120832":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:120832","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:120832":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:230733"},"id":"message:120832","revisionNum":1,"uid":120832,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:120825"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:120825"},"subject":"Re: Lync SSL Config","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:120832"},"body":"For the Lync Edge Services, *only* the Edge Servers need the cert/keys, and not the BIG-IP.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"91","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2012-08-01T14:33:00.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2012-08-01T14:33:00.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":427},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:120825/message:120832","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:120833":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:120833","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:120833":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:311353"},"id":"message:120833","revisionNum":1,"uid":120833,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:120825"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:120825"},"subject":"Re: Lync SSL Config","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:120833"},"body":"Ryan,

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I'm assuming you mean the BIG-IP does not need serverssl profiles, right? The iApp asks you to specify a client side cert and key.

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Josh","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"192","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2012-08-02T05:30:08.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2012-08-02T05:30:08.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":427},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:120825/message:120833","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:120834":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:120834","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:120834":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:311353"},"id":"message:120834","revisionNum":1,"uid":120834,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:120825"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:120825"},"subject":"Re: Lync SSL Config","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:120834"},"body":"Would someone mind clarifying the SSL settings on the reverse proxy external and internal VIPs? The iApp assigns serverssl and clientssl profiles to each, but the serverssl profiles don't actually have a key or cert assigned to them. Is this correct? In essence, this means that I could achieve the same effect by not applying any serverssl profile to either VIP, correct?

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Thanks.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2012-08-14T12:33:40.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2012-08-14T12:33:40.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":427},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:120825/message:120834","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:120835":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:120835","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:120835":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:19178"},"id":"message:120835","revisionNum":1,"uid":120835,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:120825"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:120825"},"subject":"Re: Lync SSL Config","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:120835"},"body":"This is correct. 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