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May 14, 2013

Working with members in partitions

I am new to F5 LTM and working with the PS commandlets and iControl. However, there seems to be some inconsistancies in the commands. First off, we are on LTM 11.2 and it seems some of the commands found in the example scripts and documentation on the site have been depricated since 11.0. That didn't help. I've been trying to come up with a consistant way to script disabling and enabling a pool member with PowerShell. The commandlets seems to work fine with pools in the /Common partition but run into trouble with pools in partitions. This is exasterbated by the fact that the iApp creates a seperate partition for each Application Service. Here's what I've run into.

 

The command "get-f5.ltmpoolmember -pool /Common/lbtest.app/lbtest_pool" returns nothing since,presumably, it is in sub partition. I have to use "(Get-F5.iControl).LocalLBPool.get_member("/Common/lbtest.app/lbtest_pool")"

 

Am I missing something or is this the expected behavior?

 

Also, if I run "Get-F5.ltmpool", it only shows me the pools directly in the /Common parition, and nothing in sub folders.

 

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  • Sorry about the deprecated methods. We do our best to make the methods both forward and backward compatible but the product does change and as underlying features change, the methods sometimes have to as well. In almost all cases, we've coded workarounds on the backend to make the "deprecated" methods still work with an urging to the user to migrate their code to the new methods.

     

    As for folders, you'll have to look at how they work. Check out this tech tip I wrote a while back.

     

    https://devcentral.f5.com/tech-tips...24-folders

     

    It covers iApps and how they store them as well. If you want to get a list of all objects regardless of the "active" folder, you can use the recursive_query_state method in the System.Session interface.

     

    As for the cmdlets themselves, they were written to cover a few use cases but may not have been updated to fully support folders. You might want to do what you did by using the (Get-F5.iControl) pass through to get access to the core API methods. That's how I've modeled most of my samples on DevCentral.

     

    -Joe

     

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Hello all

 

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To have at least some sort of security in place for this particular issue we would like to have an iRule in place that does check the source IP of a request. If it sees that the same FedAuth and TS* cookie is being used in the request but from a different source IP, we want the iRule to redirect back to the login page or block the request all together.

 

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My experience in creating iRules is rather limited so any help in setting up such a cookie would be very much appreciated!

 

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This is most likely not something you actually need to do. If someone managed to perform some man-in-the-middle attack or hijack a client system then very little you do on your side would be able to identify this to block access.

 

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First you will have SSL/TLS (make this as strong as you can, highest protocol and cipher suite etc.) so the cookies and values will not be visible outside of the secure SSL/TLS connection.

 

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The other issue with this is user's IP addresses do change, so if you lock each session to the source IP at login you are likely to find you will incorrectly kick-out user sessions.

 

\n

Finally if you really need this to be secure I would look at F5 APM to provide additional security and authentication. For example you could have APM perform client side checking to ensure things like AV is running and up to date or even run a SSL VPN from client to APM to help mitigate the risk of a session being hijacked.

 

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Hi,

 

\n

it was a strange behaviour, before trying to fix your behavior using an irule or other we will just be sure that asm policy was correctly configured:

 

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When you apply session hijacking (Preventing) ASM stores the device ID along with other client data (including the message key or session ID) in a cookie that remains with the client for the length of the HTTP session. The system periodically checks that the device ID of the client is the same one that was assigned when the session started.

 

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So In all Case ASM will blocked user request because the system periodically checks that the device ID of the client is the same one that was assigned when the session started...

 

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You confirm that in ASM (Security ›› Application Security : Sessions and Logins : Session Tracking)

 

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You apply:

 

\n\n

Note: When you are using device ID to track traffic, make sure that the Accept XFF setting is enabled in the HTTP profile that is assigned to the virtual server.

 

\n

set the blocking modes for the hijacking violation, click Security > Application Security > Policy Building > Learning and Blocking Settings (select in ASM Cookie Hijacking violation Learn, Alarm, and Block. ).

 

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For more info:

 

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https://support.f5.com/kb/en-us/products/big-ip_asm/manuals/product/asm-implementations-12-1-0/15.html

 

\n

Keep me in touch

 

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Hi Tom Lauwereins,

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back in the days I wrote an iRule to use non-cookie information (e.g. Certificate, Source-IP) to protect sensitive session cookie information.

\n

High Performance HMAC Cookie Signing

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https://devcentral.f5.com/codeshare/high-performance-hmac-cookie-signing

\n

Note: Use the

CLIENT_ACCEPTED
event of the provided iRule to use the client IP address as cookie binding. Change the cookie names in the
RULE_INIT
event to match your FedAuth cookie and enter a unique and random key for HMAC operations.

\n

Note: Before using the HMAC verification iRule make sure to analyse your FedAuth cookie. If the FedAuth cookie value changes on every single response, then you should NOT use the iRule.

\n

Note: Instead of using HMAC-verification (my solution uses RAM caches to speed up the verification) you could also develop an iRule which uses symetric encryption (this will require slightly more CPU instead of using RAM). The iRule would need to parse the response from your servers and intercept those requests which are setting the FedAuth cookie. You could then encrypt the cookie information in combination with the client IP (either as a pre- or suffix) before sending to the client. Whenenver the client sends the encrypted cookie on subsequent request to your F5, you need to decrypt it, verify the embedded client IP and finally inject the original cookie value back to the request.

\n

Cheers, Kai

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