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Jun 03, 2010

Load Balancing on both external and internal interface

Hi, I'm new to Big-IP and F5, but used to work with Cisco Local Directors many years back. Anyway, we're doing a big mail migration project (and when I say big I mean - approx 18 million mailboxes). ...

Cirrostratus

Jun 04, 2010

Hi Neil,

However I'm specifically asking about receiving traffic on the external interface and load balancing back out on that interface.

That's not a problem at all. If the servers don't have a route to the client back through LTM, you'd want to enable source address translation on the virtual server. The simplest way to do this is to enable SNAT automap. LTM will then use the floating self IP on the egress VLAN to source traffic to the pool members.

Aaron

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Is this possible? \n\nSecondly, can I then start to have some traffic going out on the internal interface (as we increase the ratio of the new servers) as well as the external interface.\n\nNeil","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2010-06-03T00:38:56.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuM3wyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:basic","text":"basic","time":"2022-01-24T02:29:45.455-08:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}},{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuM3wyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDI","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:getting started","text":"getting started","time":"2022-01-24T02:29:45.456-08:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}},{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuM3wyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDM","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:new to f5","text":"new to f5","time":"2022-01-24T02:29:45.453-08:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:126985_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":629},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"Hi, I'm new to Big-IP and F5, but used to work with Cisco Local Directors many years back.\n\nAnyway, we're doing a big mail migration project (and when I say big I mean - approx 18 million mailboxes). 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However I'm specifically asking about receiving traffic on the external interface and load balancing back out on that interface.

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However I'm specifically asking about receiving traffic on the external interface and load balancing back out on that interface.

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