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Hello,
We have an F5 LTM that front our backend middleware server-pair in a HA setup. So F5 serves as a LB that forward incoming traffic to the active one.
But we also need the backend server initiated outbound communication session to go through the F5 and carries F5's address as the origin IP.
This is needed because we are replacing an existing standalone middleware server with this above F5-HA infrastructure. But we're experiencing some difficulty.
What do we need to do to make this above configuration possible?
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I don't see a much simpler solution. This is very common, where the BigIP acts as the outbound gateway for the internal devices.
> Specifically, the middleware is IBM MQ. I tried to apply local address of the outbound channel to the F5's IP. But the channel process could not bind to the F5 IP.
I'm not really sure what you are trying to do here.
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> Although I understand F5 LTM is only for load balancing inbound traffic, it seems unlikely what we need is a rarely encountered scenario. Isn't there a simpler way to meet such needs?
I don't see a much simpler solution. This is very common, where the BigIP acts as the outbound gateway for the internal devices.
> Specifically, the middleware is IBM MQ. I tried to apply local address of the outbound channel to the F5's IP. But the channel process could not bind to the F5 IP.
I'm not really sure what you are trying to do here.
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Simon, thanks so much your insight!
Even though this mechanism seems to be way over my head, I got the underline principle.
Although I understand F5 LTM is only for load balancing inbound traffic, it seems unlikely what we need is a rarely encountered scenario. Isn't there a simpler way to meet such needs?
It is mandatory for us to make the migration from old to the new F5-HA infrastructure a transparent one as much as possible. Introducing extra BigIP components is not a feasible option at this time.
We have a sizable F5 team who configure devices for Load Balancing, that's the capacity we're engaging now. Expanding the scope would be a hard call.
Specifically, the middleware is IBM MQ. I tried to apply local address of the outbound channel to the F5's IP. But the channel process could not bind to the F5 IP.
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Even though this mechanism seems to be way over my head, I got the underline principle.
Although I understand F5 LTM is only for load balancing inbound traffic, it seems unlikely what we need is a rarely encountered scenario. Isn't there a simpler way to meet such needs?
It is mandatory for us to make the migration from old to the new F5-HA infrastructure a transparent one as much as possible. Introducing extra BigIP components is not a feasible option at this time.
We have a sizable F5 team who configure devices for Load Balancing, that's the capacity we're engaging now. Expanding the scope would be a hard call.
Specifically, the middleware is IBM MQ. I tried to apply local address of the outbound channel to the F5's IP. But the channel process could not bind to the F5 IP.
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