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Nov 22, 2010

High memory usage from TMM

Hey Everyone, I've been experiencing some weird issues on my LTM HA cluster. Whenever I make a config change through Web Admin or CLI (using b load), it see a hundred or so monitors flap up and d...

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Dec 06, 2010

To add a bit: because TMM is a microkernel it'll occupy CPU - it's got real time priority (you'll see it as RT in the priority column in top). As a result it'll sit on idle cycles or has first right of refusal at the very least.I've not spent cozy time with 9.x for a good long while, but I do remember that TMM typically ran hot. TMM sitting on 40% CPU in 9.x doesn't sound alarming to me, for what it's worth. On a 10.x system it's common to see it sitting at around 8-11% utilization per core.

Despite all that, Aaron's advice is good, as usual - I'd open a case here too just to be sure.

-Matt

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Whenever I make a config change through Web Admin or CLI (using b load), it see a hundred or so monitors flap up and d...","body@stringLength":"1552","rawBody":"Hey Everyone,

I've been experiencing some weird issues on my LTM HA cluster. Whenever I make a config change through Web Admin or CLI (using b load), it see a hundred or so monitors flap up and down. The flapping only occurs on my active unit. If I make similar changes on the standby unit, I don't see any flapping. I've also failed over to the secondary unit and confirmed that it has the same issue. Increasing the timeouts to around 4 or 5 times the interval seems help, but I don't want to wait for 4-5 failures before a member is marked down.

I don't know when this issue started so I can't really associate it with a specific config change. We use our LTMs as a shared appliance to provide load balancing and redundancy to our enterprise customers. We don't do much with iRules other than pointing a hostname or URI to a specific member.

So far, I've done the following:

1. full_box_reboot on each unit

2. ran EUD - both came back clean

3. upgraded from 9.4.6 to 9.4.8 HF4

The host memory is pretty much maxed out at any given time on our active and standby units, so I don't think it is a bad iRule. I see the following process (ps -aux) on both units using ~40% CPU and ~80% memory:

/bin/tmm -m -s 1556 --command=rtc_frequency 4096

Has anyone had similar problems? Does anyone know what that process is?

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So far, I've done the following:

1. full_box_reboot on each unit

2. ran EUD - both came back clean

3. upgraded from 9.4.6 to 9.4.8 HF4

/bin/tmm -m -s 1556 --command=rtc_frequency 4096

Has anyone had similar problems? Does anyone know what that process is?

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Despite all that, Aaron's advice is good, as usual - I'd open a case here too just to be sure.

-Matt","body@stringLength":"689","rawBody":"To add a bit: because TMM is a microkernel it'll occupy CPU - it's got real time priority (you'll see it as RT in the priority column in top). As a result it'll sit on idle cycles or has first right of refusal at the very least.I've not spent cozy time with 9.x for a good long while, but I do remember that TMM typically ran hot. TMM sitting on 40% CPU in 9.x doesn't sound alarming to me, for what it's worth. On a 10.x system it's common to see it sitting at around 8-11% utilization per core.

Despite all that, Aaron's advice is good, as usual - I'd open a case here too just to be sure.

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