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Nimbostratus

Sep 01, 2011

irule to send requests for another port to another pool in vip

Hi, If I have a pool that uses port 8080 in it and want to also process 8081 to the same nodes (IIS servers) would it be possible to use an irule to do so? Thanks for any input

Nimbostratus

Jul 25, 2011

That would be a far better solution. However, The problem with that is that this is a firewalled legacy environment. All the firewall rules have been written for the traffic flows as they are currently. Coming up with new firewall rules is near impossible at this point given the nature and age of some of these applications.

nitass
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Jul 03, 2012
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isn't authentication required on those servers i.e. the one you have to put username and password?

as i know, without receive string, health monitor will always mark pool member up if there is response. any response except tcp reset will work e.g. http status 2xx, 3xx, 4xx, etc.
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Jul 03, 2012
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Thanks nitass

That is correct we are just looking for 200

whats interesting is on servers where there is no authentication needed, the arbitrary auth username and password works.. but on servers where a blank username and password does not work - ANY content in the username/password field will work

very weird
nitass
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That is correct we are just looking for 200 can you try to set "200 OK" as receive string?

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With a 4.5 SNAT things work as follows:

All connections that the server initiates outbound using the bigIP as it's default gateway are SNATed to the snat IP.

All connections inbound to the server, initiated by a client, say an admin ssh'ing into the server, are simply forwarded without any NAT/SNAT. (this would be an asymmetrical flow, bigip only sees half the connection.)

In 10.2.1 I've created an irule and forwarding server (see below) that SNATs connections from a 'legacy server' data class. However, currently the 10.x BigIP SNATs everything it sees... This includes flows that it never saw an initial SYN for...

For example, if you ssh into a server, you have asymmetrical routing, so all packets from the ssh client go router -> server, while the return path is server -> bigip -> router.

This prevents ssh'ing into the box as a 3way handshake is never established, the ssh client sends a SYN which reaches the server, the server replies next-hoping the syn/ack to the bigip. The bigIP then SNATs the connection before sending it to the router, which of course prevents the 3way handshake.

Some detailed information and diagrams of what's going on, as well as my current irule and forwarding server configuration.

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With a 4.5 SNAT things work as follows:

All connections that the server initiates outbound using the bigIP as it's default gateway are SNATed to the snat IP.

For example, if you ssh into a server, you have asymmetrical routing, so all packets from the ssh client go router -> server, while the return path is server -> bigip -> router.

Some detailed information and diagrams of what's going on, as well as my current irule and forwarding server configuration.

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