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May 27, 2009

Blocking insecure log-in page

We terminate https on the F5, and pass traffic to the web apps on port 80. Consequently, I have an interesting problem. I have a log-in page (/store/user/login.jhtml) that should only be accessed via ...

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Joel_41531

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Sep 11, 2009

Just to close this out, here's what I did. We have an iRule that injects a header tag to let the backend systems know if the connection is secure/insecure. It's really simple -- if arrived on port 80, is_secure=0, if arrived on port 443, is_secure=1. I utilized this, in a headercontent statement, in conjunction with the uri, and it worked.

Joel

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I've defined the specific page as an object (we're on 9.4.5), but I don't know how to block that specific object.

Is there any way to write an attack sig that blocks a specific object? Or am I missing something basic?

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I've defined the specific page as an object (we're on 9.4.5), but I don't know how to block that specific object.

Is there any way to write an attack sig that blocks a specific object? Or am I missing something basic?

Thanks!

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