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7 TopicsCipher Rules And Groups in BIG-IP v13
My mother used to always tell me two things before I left for school in the morning. Be wary of what ciphers your application supports Never use the Default cipher list unless you have compatibility concerns You may have had a different upbringing from me but my mom's lessons still apply to anyone using SSL/TLS enabled systems. We know from Señor Wagnon's Security Sidebar: Improving Your SSL Labs Test Grade how cumbersome modifying lengthy cipher strings can be to keep your SSL Labs A grade. We know as BIG-IP matures we update the DEFAULT cipher list to remove deprecated entries and introduce fancy new ones. This causes negative affects on those legacy applications we like to keep lying around. Lastly, we know that not everyone appreciates meditating in SSH sessions; pondering countless tmm --clientciphers commands to figure out what cipher string they'll need in order to get achieve an SSL Labs A+ grade. We have a solution for you. Cipher Rules & Groups BIG-IP version 13 introduces Cipher Rules & Groups; an alternate way to visualize, organize, and apply cipher suites to your client and ssl profiles. You still need a basic understanding of cipher strings and I recommend you review Megazone's article: Cipher Suite Practices and Pitfallsarticle before gallivanting through Cipher Rules & Groups; you'll stub a toe. Cipher rules and the subsequent groups that contain them allow the same boolean operators used in tmm cipher strings. Boolean Operations in Cipher Groups UNION = Allow the following: INTERSECT = Restrict the Allowed List to the following: DIFFERENCE =Exclude the following from the Allowed List: F5 includes 5 default cipher rules and applies them via 5 default cipher groups of the same name (included is the tmm command to view each cipher list used): f5-aes = tmm --clientciphers AES f5-default = tmm --clientciphers DEFAULT f5-ecc = tmm --clientciphers ECDHE:ECDHE_ECDSA f5-secure = tmm --clientciphers ECDHE:RSA:!SSLV3:!RC4:!EXP:!DES f5-hw_keys = tmm --clientciphers 'ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-CBC-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:ECDH-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDH-RSA-AES256-SHA384:ECDH-RSA-AES256-SHA:AES256-GCM-SHA384:AES256-SHA256:AES256-SHA:ECDHE-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:DHE-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:ECDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:DES-CBC3-SHA:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-CBC-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:ECDH-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA256:ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA:AES128-GCM-SHA256:AES128-SHA256:AES128-SHA:RC4-SHA:RC4-MD5:DHE-RSA-DES-CBC-SHA:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA:CAMELLIA256-SHA:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA128-SHA:!TLSv1:!TLSv1_1:!SSLv3:!DTLSv1 The last one related to HSM ciphers was crazy long wasn't it. This is why we built cipher rules and groups; to prevent you from banging your head on the table because you got the operand wrong somewhere after ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256. The F5 provided rules and groups are read-only and should used as a reference or starting template. If you rely only on the default F5 cipher rules/groups they will change as our cryptographic requirements change and you could end up with a bunch of incompatible legacy clients. Building A Cipher Rule Because Cipher Rules and Groups are applied to SSL Profiles, you can find them under Local Traffic in the web GUI. Clicking into Local Traffic => Ciphers gives you two options: Cipher Rules and Cipher Groups. I'll create one Cipher Rule based on tmm cipher string ALL:SSLv3:EXPORT. This is only for display purposes to better illustrate the boolean operations when we build the Cipher Group. Current ciphers based on BIG-IP version and Hotfix are listed in the NATIVE cipher list. Remember, we have to support a lot of ciphers that may not be appropriate for public consumption. Building Cipher Groups Now we'll build a Cipher Group starting with the chase_all Cipher Rule, because we're gluttons for punishment. Clicking the + expands the ciphers allowed under each Cipher Rule. Adding it to the "Allow the following" element, the Cipher Audit element below will automatically update to reflect the ciphers this group will provide the Client or Server Profile. Remember, anything added in that window is performing a Boolean Union operation. Adding the f5-aes Cipher Rule to the "Restrict the Allowed List to the following:" element which will reduce the chase_all cipher list to only ciphers common to both ALL:SSLv3:EXPORT and AES lists; performing a Boolean Intersection operation. The Cipher Audit element shows the results and we can see those pesky RC4-MD5 suites from EXPORT are gone, but ew... we have some SSLv3-enabled ciphers and we want those out. I'll create a new Cipher Rule called chase_sslv3 with the cipher string only being SSlv3. I'll add this new Cipher Rule to the "Exclude the following from the Allowed List:"; performing a Boolean Difference operation. We can also change the cipher sorting based on speed, strength, FIPS, or hardware accelerated via the Order dropdown. Ahh.... better, now we've paired down a horribly insecure cipher list with the intersection of the AES ciphers and exclusion of the SSlv3s. Yea, we could have started with the AES Cipher Rule as the base list but that's not as fun for this demonstration. The lifecycle of a BIG-IP SSL profile requires active management of cipher suites. This demo illustrates the flexability of additive/subtractive cipher management which reduces the complexity of recreating the wheel every time someone nullifies the security of existing algorithms or hash functions. Applying Cipher Groups to Client/Server Profiles Open an SSL Client or Server Profile and change the configuration to advanced. The cipher list becomes available and is defaulted to a Cipher String. Now you have a radio button for Cipher Group, selecting the newly created object or click the + button to create one from scratch. TMSH Support for Cipher Rules and Groups We have support for tmsh commands so you can take advantage of adding cipher groups to existing profiles. # tmsh list ltm cipher rule f5-secure all-properties ltm cipher rule f5-secure { app-service none cipher ECDHE:RSA:!SSLV3:!RC4:!EXP:!DES description "Cipher suites that maximize regulatory compliance." partition Common } # tmsh show ltm cipher rule f5-secure ----------------- Ltm::Cipher::Rule ----------------- Name Result ----------------- f5-secure ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256/TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-CBC-SHA/TLS1.0:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-CBC-SHA/TLS1.1:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-CBC-SHA/TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256/TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384/TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-CBC-SHA/TLS1.0:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-CBC-SHA/TLS1.1:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-CBC-SHA/TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384/TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA/TLS1.0:ECDHE-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA/TLS1.1:ECDHE-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA/TLS1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256/TLS1.2:AES128-SHA/TLS1.0:AES128-SHA/TLS1.1:AES128-SHA/TLS1.2:AES128-SHA/DTLS1.0:AES128-SHA256/TLS1.2:AES256-GCM-SHA384/TLS1.2:AES256-SHA/TLS1.0:AES256-SHA/TLS1.1:AES256-SHA/TLS1.2:AES256-SHA/DTLS1.0:AES256-SHA256/TLS1.2:CAMELLIA128-SHA/TLS1.0:CAMELLIA128-SHA/TLS1.1:CAMELLIA128-SHA/TLS1.2:CAMELLIA256-SHA/TLS1.0:CAMELLIA256-SHA/TLS1.1:CAMELLIA256-SHA/TLS1.2:DES-CBC3-SHA/TLS1.0:DES-CBC3-SHA/TLS1.1:DES-CBC3-SHA/TLS1.2:DES-CBC3-SHA/DTLS1.0 # tmsh list ltm cipher group chases_cipher_group all-properties ltm cipher group chases_cipher_group { allow { chase_all { } } app-service none description "MY CIPHERS ARE THE BEST CIPHERS" exclude { chase_sslv3 { } } ordering default partition Common require { f5-aes { } } } # tmsh show ltm cipher group chases_cipher_group --------------------------- Ltm::Cipher::Group --------------------------- Name Result --------------------------- chases_cipher_group ECDHE-RSA-AES128-CBC-SHA/TLS1.0:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-CBC-SHA/TLS1.1:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-CBC-SHA/TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256/TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-CBC-SHA/TLS1.0:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-CBC-SHA/TLS1.1:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-CBC-SHA/TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384/TLS1.2:ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA256/TLS1.2:ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA/TLS1.0:ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA/TLS1.1:ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA/TLS1.2:ECDH-RSA-AES256-SHA384/TLS1.2:ECDH-RSA-AES256-SHA/TLS1.0:ECDH-RSA-AES256-SHA/TLS1.1:ECDH-RSA-AES256-SHA/TLS1.2:AES128-SHA/TLS1.0:AES128-SHA/TLS1.1:AES128-SHA/TLS1.2:AES128-SHA/DTLS1.0:AES128-SHA256/TLS1.2:AES256-SHA/TLS1.0:AES256-SHA/TLS1.1:AES256-SHA/TLS1.2:AES256-SHA/DTLS1.0:AES256-SHA256/TLS1.2:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA/TLS1.0:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA/TLS1.1:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA/TLS1.2:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA256/TLS1.2:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA/TLS1.0:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA/TLS1.1:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA/TLS1.2:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA384/TLS1.2:ECDH-ECDSA-AES128-SHA/TLS1.0:ECDH-ECDSA-AES128-SHA/TLS1.1:ECDH-ECDSA-AES128-SHA/TLS1.2:ECDH-ECDSA-AES128-SHA256/TLS1.2:ECDH-ECDSA-AES256-SHA/TLS1.0:ECDH-ECDSA-AES256-SHA/TLS1.1:ECDH-ECDSA-AES256-SHA/TLS1.2:ECDH-ECDSA-AES256-SHA384/TLS1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA/TLS1.0:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA/TLS1.1:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA/TLS1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA/DTLS1.0:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256/TLS1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA/TLS1.0:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA/TLS1.1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA/TLS1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA/DTLS1.0:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256/TLS1.2:DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA/TLS1.0:DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA/TLS1.1:DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA/TLS1.2:DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA/DTLS1.0:DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA256/TLS1.2:DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA/TLS1.0:DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA/TLS1.1:DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA/TLS1.2:DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA/DTLS1.0:DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA256/TLS1.2:ADH-AES128-SHA/TLS1.0:ADH-AES256-SHA/TLS1.0 # tmsh list ltm profile client-ssl chases_ssl_client_profile ltm profile client-ssl chases_ssl_client_profile { app-service none cert default.crt cert-key-chain { default { cert default.crt key default.key } } chain none cipher-group chases_cipher_group ciphers none defaults-from clientssl inherit-certkeychain true key default.key passphrase none } # tmsh list ltm profile server-ssl chases_ssl_server_profile ltm profile server-ssl chases_ssl_server_profile { app-service none cipher-group chases_cipher_group ciphers none defaults-from serverssl } Validating Your Ciphers With NMAP A lot of users are not always comfortable with how we output our cipher lists. NMAP provides a user-preferred display using the ssl-enum-ciphers script. In this case, we'll check out SSL Labs web server's ciphers. Run the following: $ nmap -Pn -sT www.ssllabs.com -p 443 --script ssl-enum-ciphers Starting Nmap 6.40 at 2017-02-24 11:22 PST Nmap scan report for www.ssllabs.com (64.41.200.100) Host is up (0.035s latency). PORT STATE SERVICE 443/tcp open https | ssl-enum-ciphers: | SSLv3: No supported ciphers found | TLSv1.0: | ciphers: | TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA - strong | TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA - strong | TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA - strong | TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA - strong | TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA - strong | TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA - strong | compressors: | NULL | TLSv1.1: | ciphers: | TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA - strong | TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA - strong | TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA - strong | TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA - strong | TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA - strong | TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA - strong | compressors: | NULL | TLSv1.2: | ciphers: | TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA - strong | TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA - strong | TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 - strong | TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 - strong | TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA - strong | TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256 - strong | TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 - strong | TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA - strong | TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 - strong | TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 - strong | TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA - strong | TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384 - strong | TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 - strong | TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA - strong | compressors: | NULL |_ least strength: strong Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 2.73 seconds Hopefully this overview and mini-demo got you pondering how you can improve cipher management in your infrastructure. 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Hi, Trying to help a coworker with an SSL Client profile request with custom ciphers. So far I have been able to see the ciphers supported on F5 but not the exact syntax when you configure them. I checked the TMSH manual and did some searching on KB but all i find are strengths of ciphers and so on - nothing on the way the ciphers have to be written (i.e : TLS1.2 is TLSv_1.2) Apologies in advance if I missed something obvious.411Views0likes4CommentsRegarding cipher negotiation for LTM
Hi, Needed suggestion regarding cipher negotiation between LTM and server. As per my understanding when client sends hello it sends all cipher value supported. So in case of serverssl profile I am seeing when LTM sends hello to nodes it only sends TLSv1.2 and since our node supports TLSv1 it is dropping the connection. So ideally if client and server are not able to agree to cipher value LTM should switch to TLSv1.1, then TLSv1 and sslv3, since these ciphers are currently enabled on LTM. But why after LTM sends TLSv1.2 and seeing reset from server not fallback to low supported ciphers. Do we need to make any other changes on LTM side? Also if I configure cipher value something like :TLSv1:TLSv1.1:TLSv1.2 will TLSv1 will take preference over v1.1 and v1.2? Thanks.251Views0likes2Comments