Hello all As far as I know, Viprion's bundles 'Better' and 'Best' come with a bunch of modules each ('Best'='Better'+APM+ASM); anyway I still have some doubts, such as: - If I purchase a Viprion Chassis 2400 in 'Better' mode, with what kind of hardware will it come? How many blades will come with the chassis? - If I purchase a Viprion Chassis 2400 in 'Best' mode, with what kind of hardware will it come? How many blades will come with the chassis? - What happens with the other two models (4480 and 4800)? These are bigger chassis... would they come with more blades? Please advise

I believe you get as many blades as you actually buy. The software bundles, are just that. Software. Not hardware... H

Hi, As Hamish said, Better and Best are licence bundles. So even if you buy one of them, it's not linked to hardware. With Viprion it's not the chassis itself which runs modules but blades. So you have to purchase the chassis and then on a blade buy the Best bundle for example.

Hello again, So, according to you guys, the total price if I want Viprion chassis 2400 in Best bundle, for example, would consist in the result of adding the following prices: - The price of the 2400 chassis - The price of the blade (or blades) that will come with the chassis - The price of the 'Best' bundle, in this case would be US$ 84995 Now, the question would be: how many modules can a single blade support? There must be a sizing criteria for determining the ammount of blades that are ought to be bought... am I right? PS: Thanks Hamish and Thomas for your explanation, if you can help me with this other question that would be great!!

With your blades you'll be able to run every modules at the same time. A best bundle can be handle by a Big-IP or a blade as soon as it has 8 Gb of RAM.

Note that various combinations of modules require certain amounts of memory. more modules == more memory required. And some modules can't be provisioned together. I'd get the biggest badest blades I could afford (2250's please) and as many of them as possible... The biggest issue we've had is memory on the original 2100 blades. 2250's have 64GB (Versus 16GB on the 2100) and more cores... Mmmm... I could wish for finer grained allocations (e.g. Like VMWare or rolling the KVM's yourself :) ), but not sure I'll ever get that wish. H

What hardware comes with 'Better' and 'Best' Viprion software?

Hamish
Cirrocumulus
Feb 26, 2014
I believe you get as many blades as you actually buy. The software bundles, are just that. Software. Not hardware...

H
Thomas_Gobet
Nimbostratus
Feb 26, 2014
Hi,

As Hamish said, Better and Best are licence bundles.

So even if you buy one of them, it's not linked to hardware.

With Viprion it's not the chassis itself which runs modules but blades.

So you have to purchase the chassis and then on a blade buy the Best bundle for example.
Marcos_Gaspar_G
Nimbostratus
Feb 26, 2014
Hello again,

So, according to you guys, the total price if I want Viprion chassis 2400 in Best bundle, for example, would consist in the result of adding the following prices: - The price of the 2400 chassis - The price of the blade (or blades) that will come with the chassis - The price of the 'Best' bundle, in this case would be US$ 84995

Now, the question would be: how many modules can a single blade support? There must be a sizing criteria for determining the ammount of blades that are ought to be bought... am I right?

PS: Thanks Hamish and Thomas for your explanation, if you can help me with this other question that would be great!!
Thomas_Gobet
Nimbostratus
Feb 26, 2014
With your blades you'll be able to run every modules at the same time.

A best bundle can be handle by a Big-IP or a blade as soon as it has 8 Gb of RAM.
Hamish
Cirrocumulus
Feb 26, 2014
Note that various combinations of modules require certain amounts of memory. more modules == more memory required. And some modules can't be provisioned together.

I'd get the biggest badest blades I could afford (2250's please) and as many of them as possible...

The biggest issue we've had is memory on the original 2100 blades. 2250's have 64GB (Versus 16GB on the 2100) and more cores... Mmmm... I could wish for finer grained allocations (e.g. Like VMWare or rolling the KVM's yourself :) ), but not sure I'll ever get that wish.

H
Marcos_Gaspar_G
Nimbostratus
Feb 26, 2014
Thank you guys for your answers!!

I've been doing some research, and got this until now: There are two ways to use Viprion appliance, which are:

Using the chassis with its blades, so I should purchase a bundle for each blade... in this scenario, each blade would work as a single super BIG-IP.

Using VCMP licenses; in this scenario, the VCMP license would work for the whole chassis, and it would work as an Hypervisor, so there would not be a separation among the blades... I could configure a number of virtual machines, which would be provisioned among the blades that are installed the chassis.

What other information is needed? What else shall I have in mind about this whole Viprion matter?? Please advise... and thanks for all your help, guys!!
JG
Cumulonimbus
Feb 27, 2014
Your 1 is news to me; for I thought licences were tied to the chassis for the Viprions, not to individual blades. You pay the same licence fee no matter how many blades there are in the chassis. Will somebody verify this?
Thomas_Gobet
Nimbostratus
Feb 27, 2014
Licences on Viprions are linked to blades not chassis, Marcos is right.

Maybe you "only" knew the second point Marcos talked about.
Hamish
Cirrocumulus
Feb 27, 2014
Sorry Thomas, but licenses on Viprions are indeed tied to the CHASSIS. Not the Blade. Every blade and every vCMP guest you have gets the same license inherited from the host.

H
Thomas_Gobet
Nimbostratus
Feb 27, 2014
I think I said and understood something wrong...

Hamish you're right in fact, what I wanted to know is on each blade you can have different modules activated.

It's the same for each instance when you use vCMP.

Sorry about that, I'll be more careful on my next posts.