I have VS1 which forwards traffic to SRV (no SNAT used, not possible to do XFF so source address of client is seen). F5 is def gw for SRV. On F5 there is also forwarding IP VS 0/0 and def route to FW. FW also have static route for SRV subnet poiting to F5.
Questions:
1. Client from net goes to VS1 (SNAT off) is redirected to SRV (source address is seen, destination nat is in place to pass traffic to SRV). I assume that return traffic from SRV is hitting VS 0/0 (am I right?) VS 0/0 have snat off. And I also assume that source address of SRV is changed to VS1 IP (am I also right?). If not, should I do some SNAT on VS 0/0?
Second example. When server is originating connection to NET it hits VS 0/0, is that right? No SNAT is configured so source address of server is seen outside? The route on FW pass traffic back to SRV via F5.
If point 1 is true (so when return traffic is automatically SNATed back to VS1 IP) what determines that traffic is SNATed or not? Is it previously created session/entry for DNAT when traffic originating from Net hits VS1?
I have question regarding my VS 0/0 configuration. It is enabled only on server-vlan. If I understand correctly when the server itself is originating connection outside it will hit VS 0/0.
How does this configuration applies when connection is originating from another subnet (for example behind FW) to server IP address (not VS1). Connection will be dropped/rejected? Should VS 0/0 listen on all vlans to allow such connections?
I have question regarding my VS 0/0 configuration. It is enabled only on server-vlan. If I understand correctly when the server itself is originating connection outside it will hit VS 0/0.
How does this configuration applies when connection is originating from another subnet (for example behind FW) to server IP address (not VS1). Connection will be dropped/rejected? Should VS 0/0 listen on all vlans to allow such connections?
Sorry, but I'll try to answer only your first question right now. We'll come back to others once we have time, or maybe others can help.
"Questions: 1. Client from net goes to VS1 (SNAT off) is redirected to SRV (source address is seen, destination nat is in place to pass traffic to SRV). I assume that return traffic from SRV is hitting VS 0/0 (am I right?) VS 0/0 have snat off. And I also assume that source address of SRV is changed to VS1 IP (am I also right?). If not, should I do some SNAT on VS 0/0?"
If VS1 is from where client comes in (another VS with a pool attached), then the return traffic won't go past the VS 0/0, but it will be routed back from the same VS1. Client will see the source IP address of return packets, the same as VS1 external listener IP. Traffic will go through the VS0/0, only if the session was initiated by SRV. (E.g SRV making a DNS request to 8.8.8.8 will be routed via VS0/0, and no NAT will be applied in F5).
Connections come from FW to VS1 on F5 (not another VS with pool attached). I assume it is the same.
How F5 knows that it should use VS1 not VS 0/0? Destination address of packet coming out from server is Client IP address therefore it is not any address configured on F5. Is it done on DNAT session matching or any other entry? Maybe I am just "digging" to much but I am very curious :)
In case you have VS1 listening on 192.168.1.1:any and another VS2 listening on 192.168.1.1:443 and incoming packet is for TCP 443 port, then VS2 gets the connection. Same "closest-match" logic works with per-IP/subnet for choosing which VS gets to serve the client.
Ok, maybe some example (SIP = source IP; DIP = destination IP):
Packet from net/fw to F5 VS1:80 => SIP:1.1.1.1 DIP:192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1 is VS1)
Packet from F5 to SRV => SIP 1.1.1.1 DIP: 192.168.2.1 (no snat, 192.168.2.1 is server IP address)
Response packet from SRV to F5 => SIP:192.168.2.1 DIP:1.1.1.1
Response packet from F5 to Client => SIP: ??? DIP:1.1.1.1
Instead of "???" which SIP is correct? 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.2.1? I assume and as you said previously (and I want to be) it is 192.168.1.1
However, according to: "when Local Traffic Manager does not find a specific virtual server match for a client’s destination IP address, LTM matches the client’s destination IP address to a wildcard virtual server," (https://support.f5.com/kb/en-us/products/big-ip_ltm/manuals/product/ltm-concepts-11-4-0/2.html) 1.1.1.1 is not configured on F5 and maybe VS 0/0 will be chosen. In other hand, this quotation does not say if it applies to first/incoming traffic or return traffic.
Sorry, but I'll try to answer only your first question right now. We'll come back to others once we have time, or maybe others can help.
"Questions: 1. Client from net goes to VS1 (SNAT off) is redirected to SRV (source address is seen, destination nat is in place to pass traffic to SRV). I assume that return traffic from SRV is hitting VS 0/0 (am I right?) VS 0/0 have snat off. And I also assume that source address of SRV is changed to VS1 IP (am I also right?). If not, should I do some SNAT on VS 0/0?"
If VS1 is from where client comes in (another VS with a pool attached), then the return traffic won't go past the VS 0/0, but it will be routed back from the same VS1. Client will see the source IP address of return packets, the same as VS1 external listener IP. Traffic will go through the VS0/0, only if the session was initiated by SRV. (E.g SRV making a DNS request to 8.8.8.8 will be routed via VS0/0, and no NAT will be applied in F5).
Connections come from FW to VS1 on F5 (not another VS with pool attached). I assume it is the same.
How F5 knows that it should use VS1 not VS 0/0? Destination address of packet coming out from server is Client IP address therefore it is not any address configured on F5. Is it done on DNAT session matching or any other entry? Maybe I am just "digging" to much but I am very curious :)
In case you have VS1 listening on 192.168.1.1:any and another VS2 listening on 192.168.1.1:443 and incoming packet is for TCP 443 port, then VS2 gets the connection. Same "closest-match" logic works with per-IP/subnet for choosing which VS gets to serve the client.
Ok, maybe some example (SIP = source IP; DIP = destination IP):
Packet from net/fw to F5 VS1:80 => SIP:1.1.1.1 DIP:192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1 is VS1)
Packet from F5 to SRV => SIP 1.1.1.1 DIP: 192.168.2.1 (no snat, 192.168.2.1 is server IP address)
Response packet from SRV to F5 => SIP:192.168.2.1 DIP:1.1.1.1
Response packet from F5 to Client => SIP: ??? DIP:1.1.1.1
Instead of "???" which SIP is correct? 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.2.1? I assume and as you said previously (and I want to be) it is 192.168.1.1
However, according to: "when Local Traffic Manager does not find a specific virtual server match for a client’s destination IP address, LTM matches the client’s destination IP address to a wildcard virtual server," (https://support.f5.com/kb/en-us/products/big-ip_ltm/manuals/product/ltm-concepts-11-4-0/2.html) 1.1.1.1 is not configured on F5 and maybe VS 0/0 will be chosen. In other hand, this quotation does not say if it applies to first/incoming traffic or return traffic.
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Response packet from F5 to Client => SIP: ??? DIP:1.1.1.1
Instead of "???" which SIP is correct? 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.2.1? I assume and as you said previously (and I want to be) it is 192.168.1.1"
SIP is 192.168.1.1
"(https://support.f5.com/kb/en-us/products/big-ip_ltm/manuals/product/ltm-concepts-11-4-0/2.html) 1.1.1.1 is not configured on F5 and maybe VS 0/0 will be chosen. In other hand, this quotation does not say if it applies to first/incoming traffic or return traffic."
Response packets are already routed back as per connections table records, not as per virtual server configurations. You certainly don't have to configure 1.1.1.1 VS to ensure response packets are routed back.
Hannes, now it is clear for me. Thank you for explanation. I have also question regarding my VS 0/0 configuration. I asked it under VS 0/0 configuration above.
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Response packet from F5 to Client => SIP: ??? DIP:1.1.1.1
Instead of "???" which SIP is correct? 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.2.1? I assume and as you said previously (and I want to be) it is 192.168.1.1"
SIP is 192.168.1.1
"(https://support.f5.com/kb/en-us/products/big-ip_ltm/manuals/product/ltm-concepts-11-4-0/2.html) 1.1.1.1 is not configured on F5 and maybe VS 0/0 will be chosen. In other hand, this quotation does not say if it applies to first/incoming traffic or return traffic."
Response packets are already routed back as per connections table records, not as per virtual server configurations. You certainly don't have to configure 1.1.1.1 VS to ensure response packets are routed back.
Hannes, now it is clear for me. Thank you for explanation. I have also question regarding my VS 0/0 configuration. I asked it under VS 0/0 configuration above.
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Response packet from F5 to Client => SIP: ??? DIP:1.1.1.1
Instead of "???" which SIP is correct? 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.2.1? I assume and as you said previously (and I want to be) it is 192.168.1.1"
SIP is 192.168.1.1
"(https://support.f5.com/kb/en-us/products/big-ip_ltm/manuals/product/ltm-concepts-11-4-0/2.html) 1.1.1.1 is not configured on F5 and maybe VS 0/0 will be chosen. In other hand, this quotation does not say if it applies to first/incoming traffic or return traffic."
Response packets are already routed back as per connections table records, not as per virtual server configurations. You certainly don't have to configure 1.1.1.1 VS to ensure response packets are routed back.
Second example. When server is originating connection to NET it hits VS 0/0, is that right? No SNAT is configured so source address of server is seen outside? The route on FW pass traffic back to SRV via F5.
yes unless you also have snat list configuration.
It is enabled only on server-vlan. If I understand correctly when the server itself is originating connection outside it will hit VS 0/0. How does this configuration applies when connection is originating from another subnet (for example behind FW) to server IP address (not VS1). Connection will be dropped/rejected? Should VS 0/0 listen on all vlans to allow such connections?
yes connection will be rejected. bigip is default deny device. to allow traffic, object listener (i.e. virtual server, snat, nat) is required.
sol9038: The order of precedence for local traffic object listeners
Second example. When server is originating connection to NET it hits VS 0/0, is that right? No SNAT is configured so source address of server is seen outside? The route on FW pass traffic back to SRV via F5.
yes unless you also have snat list configuration.
It is enabled only on server-vlan. If I understand correctly when the server itself is originating connection outside it will hit VS 0/0. How does this configuration applies when connection is originating from another subnet (for example behind FW) to server IP address (not VS1). Connection will be dropped/rejected? Should VS 0/0 listen on all vlans to allow such connections?
yes connection will be rejected. bigip is default deny device. to allow traffic, object listener (i.e. virtual server, snat, nat) is required.
sol9038: The order of precedence for local traffic object listeners
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Hi,
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I have configuration:\nNET => FW => F5 => SRV
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I have VS1 which forwards traffic to SRV (no SNAT used, not possible to do XFF so source address of client is seen). F5 is def gw for SRV. On F5 there is also forwarding IP VS 0/0 and def route to FW. FW also have static route for SRV subnet poiting to F5.
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Questions:\n1. Client from net goes to VS1 (SNAT off) is redirected to SRV (source address is seen, destination nat is in place to pass traffic to SRV). I assume that return traffic from SRV is hitting VS 0/0 (am I right?) VS 0/0 have snat off. And I also assume that source address of SRV is changed to VS1 IP (am I also right?). If not, should I do some SNAT on VS 0/0?
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Second example. When server is originating connection to NET it hits VS 0/0, is that right? No SNAT is configured so source address of server is seen outside? The route on FW pass traffic back to SRV via F5.
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If point 1 is true (so when return traffic is automatically SNATed back to VS1 IP) what determines that traffic is SNATed or not? Is it previously created session/entry for DNAT when traffic originating from Net hits VS1?
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Hi,
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I have configuration:\nNET => FW => F5 => SRV
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I have VS1 which forwards traffic to SRV (no SNAT used, not possible to do XFF so source address of client is seen). F5 is def gw for SRV. On F5 there is also forwarding IP VS 0/0 and def route to FW. FW also have static route for SRV subnet poiting to F5.
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Questions:\n1. Client from net goes to VS1 (SNAT off) is redirected to SRV (source address is seen, destination nat is in place to pass traffic to SRV). I assume that return traffic from SRV is hitting VS 0/0 (am I right?) VS 0/0 have snat off. And I also assume that source address of SRV is changed to VS1 IP (am I also right?). If not, should I do some SNAT on VS 0/0?
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Second example. When server is originating connection to NET it hits VS 0/0, is that right? No SNAT is configured so source address of server is seen outside? The route on FW pass traffic back to SRV via F5.
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If point 1 is true (so when return traffic is automatically SNATed back to VS1 IP) what determines that traffic is SNATed or not? Is it previously created session/entry for DNAT when traffic originating from Net hits VS1?
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It is enabled only on server-vlan. If I understand correctly when the server itself is originating connection outside it will hit VS 0/0. \nHow does this configuration applies when connection is originating from another subnet (for example behind FW) to server IP address (not VS1). Connection will be dropped/rejected? Should VS 0/0 listen on all vlans to allow such connections?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-11-02T09:29:36.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-11-02T09:29:36.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":894},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:207791/message:207809","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"AssociatedImage:{\"url\":\"https://community.f5.com/t5/s/zihoc95639/images/cmstMzQtMGtQRU1Y\"}":{"__typename":"AssociatedImage","url":"https://community.f5.com/t5/s/zihoc95639/images/cmstMzQtMGtQRU1Y","height":0,"width":0,"mimeType":"image/svg+xml"},"Rank:rank:34":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:34","position":11,"name":"Nacreous","color":"CCCCCC","icon":{"__ref":"AssociatedImage:{\"url\":\"https://community.f5.com/t5/s/zihoc95639/images/cmstMzQtMGtQRU1Y\"}"},"rankStyle":"FILLED"},"User:user:44330":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:44330","uid":44330,"login":"Hannes_Rapp_162","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2019-05-04T17:33:18.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.f5.com/t5/s/zihoc95639/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg?time=0"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:34"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:zihoc95639/user:44330"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:207793":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:207793","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:207793":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":207793,"id":"message:207793","revisionNum":1,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:44330"},"readOnly":false,"repliesCount":2,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:207791"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:207791"},"subject":"Re: inline configuration","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:207793"},"body":"
Please paste full configuration of your 0.0.0.0/0 VS. There are many ways the routing can be done.
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It is enabled only on server-vlan. If I understand correctly when the server itself is originating connection outside it will hit VS 0/0. \nHow does this configuration applies when connection is originating from another subnet (for example behind FW) to server IP address (not VS1). Connection will be dropped/rejected? Should VS 0/0 listen on all vlans to allow such connections?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-11-02T09:29:36.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-11-02T09:29:36.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":888},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:207791/message:207808","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:207798":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:207798","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:207798":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":207798,"id":"message:207798","revisionNum":1,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:213590"},"readOnly":false,"repliesCount":3,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:207791"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:207791"},"subject":"Re: inline configuration","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:207798"},"body":"
Sorry, but I'll try to answer only your first question right now. We'll come back to others once we have time, or maybe others can help.
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\"Questions: 1. Client from net goes to VS1 (SNAT off) is redirected to SRV (source address is seen, destination nat is in place to pass traffic to SRV). I assume that return traffic from SRV is hitting VS 0/0 (am I right?) VS 0/0 have snat off. And I also assume that source address of SRV is changed to VS1 IP (am I also right?). If not, should I do some SNAT on VS 0/0?\"
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If VS1 is from where client comes in (another VS with a pool attached), then the return traffic won't go past the VS 0/0, but it will be routed back from the same VS1. Client will see the source IP address of return packets, the same as VS1 external listener IP. Traffic will go through the VS0/0, only if the session was initiated by SRV. (E.g SRV making a DNS request to 8.8.8.8 will be routed via VS0/0, and no NAT will be applied in F5).
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I assume it is the same. \nHow F5 knows that it should use VS1 not VS 0/0? Destination address of packet coming out from server is Client IP address therefore it is not any address configured on F5. Is it done on DNAT session matching or any other entry? Maybe I am just \"digging\" to much but I am very curious :)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-10-30T07:29:17.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-10-30T07:29:17.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":890},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:207791/message:207799","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:207801":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:207801","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:207801":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:213590"},"id":"message:207801","revisionNum":1,"uid":207801,"depth":2,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:207798"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:207791"},"subject":"Re: inline configuration","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:207801"},"body":"In case you have VS1 listening on 192.168.1.1:any and another VS2 listening on 192.168.1.1:443 and incoming packet is for TCP 443 port, then VS2 gets the connection. Same \"closest-match\" logic works with per-IP/subnet for choosing which VS gets to serve the client.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-10-30T12:17:32.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-10-30T12:17:32.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":885},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:207791/message:207801","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:207804":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:207804","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:207804":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:200371"},"id":"message:207804","revisionNum":1,"uid":207804,"depth":2,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:207798"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:207791"},"subject":"Re: inline configuration","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:207804"},"body":"Ok, maybe some example (SIP = source IP; DIP = destination IP):\nPacket from net/fw to F5 VS1:80 => SIP:1.1.1.1 DIP:192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1 is VS1)\nPacket from F5 to SRV => SIP 1.1.1.1 DIP: 192.168.2.1 (no snat, 192.168.2.1 is server IP address)\nResponse packet from SRV to F5 => SIP:192.168.2.1 DIP:1.1.1.1\nResponse packet from F5 to Client => SIP: ??? DIP:1.1.1.1\n\nInstead of \"???\" which SIP is correct? 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.2.1? I assume and as you said previously (and I want to be) it is 192.168.1.1\nHowever, according to: \"when Local Traffic Manager does not find a specific virtual server match for a client’s destination IP address, LTM matches the client’s destination IP address to a wildcard virtual server,\" (https://support.f5.com/kb/en-us/products/big-ip_ltm/manuals/product/ltm-concepts-11-4-0/2.html) 1.1.1.1 is not configured on F5 and maybe VS 0/0 will be chosen. In other hand, this quotation does not say if it applies to first/incoming traffic or return traffic.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"209","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-10-31T06:48:19.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-10-31T06:48:19.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":897},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:207791/message:207804","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:207797":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:207797","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:207797":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":207797,"id":"message:207797","revisionNum":1,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:44330"},"readOnly":false,"repliesCount":3,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:207791"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:207791"},"subject":"Re: inline configuration","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:207797"},"body":"
Sorry, but I'll try to answer only your first question right now. We'll come back to others once we have time, or maybe others can help.
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\"Questions: 1. Client from net goes to VS1 (SNAT off) is redirected to SRV (source address is seen, destination nat is in place to pass traffic to SRV). I assume that return traffic from SRV is hitting VS 0/0 (am I right?) VS 0/0 have snat off. And I also assume that source address of SRV is changed to VS1 IP (am I also right?). If not, should I do some SNAT on VS 0/0?\"
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If VS1 is from where client comes in (another VS with a pool attached), then the return traffic won't go past the VS 0/0, but it will be routed back from the same VS1. Client will see the source IP address of return packets, the same as VS1 external listener IP. Traffic will go through the VS0/0, only if the session was initiated by SRV. (E.g SRV making a DNS request to 8.8.8.8 will be routed via VS0/0, and no NAT will be applied in F5).
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I assume it is the same. \nHow F5 knows that it should use VS1 not VS 0/0? Destination address of packet coming out from server is Client IP address therefore it is not any address configured on F5. Is it done on DNAT session matching or any other entry? Maybe I am just \"digging\" to much but I am very curious :)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-10-30T07:29:17.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-10-30T07:29:17.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":885},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:207791/message:207800","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:207802":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:207802","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:207802":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:44330"},"id":"message:207802","revisionNum":1,"uid":207802,"depth":2,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:207797"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:207791"},"subject":"Re: inline configuration","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:207802"},"body":"In case you have VS1 listening on 192.168.1.1:any and another VS2 listening on 192.168.1.1:443 and incoming packet is for TCP 443 port, then VS2 gets the connection. Same \"closest-match\" logic works with per-IP/subnet for choosing which VS gets to serve the client.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-10-30T12:17:32.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-10-30T12:17:32.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":886},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:207791/message:207802","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:207803":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:207803","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:207803":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:200371"},"id":"message:207803","revisionNum":1,"uid":207803,"depth":2,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:207797"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:207791"},"subject":"Re: inline configuration","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:207803"},"body":"Ok, maybe some example (SIP = source IP; DIP = destination IP):\nPacket from net/fw to F5 VS1:80 => SIP:1.1.1.1 DIP:192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1 is VS1)\nPacket from F5 to SRV => SIP 1.1.1.1 DIP: 192.168.2.1 (no snat, 192.168.2.1 is server IP address)\nResponse packet from SRV to F5 => SIP:192.168.2.1 DIP:1.1.1.1\nResponse packet from F5 to Client => SIP: ??? DIP:1.1.1.1\n\nInstead of \"???\" which SIP is correct? 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.2.1? I assume and as you said previously (and I want to be) it is 192.168.1.1\nHowever, according to: \"when Local Traffic Manager does not find a specific virtual server match for a client’s destination IP address, LTM matches the client’s destination IP address to a wildcard virtual server,\" (https://support.f5.com/kb/en-us/products/big-ip_ltm/manuals/product/ltm-concepts-11-4-0/2.html) 1.1.1.1 is not configured on F5 and maybe VS 0/0 will be chosen. In other hand, this quotation does not say if it applies to first/incoming traffic or return traffic.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"209","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-10-31T06:48:19.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-10-31T06:48:19.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":890},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:207791/message:207803","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:207807":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:207807","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:207807":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":207807,"id":"message:207807","revisionNum":1,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:213590"},"readOnly":false,"repliesCount":1,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:207791"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:207791"},"subject":"Re: inline configuration","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:207807"},"body":"
\"...\nResponse packet from F5 to Client => SIP: ??? DIP:1.1.1.1\nInstead of \"???\" which SIP is correct? 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.2.1? I assume and as you said previously (and I want to be) it is 192.168.1.1\"
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SIP is 192.168.1.1
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\"(https://support.f5.com/kb/en-us/products/big-ip_ltm/manuals/product/ltm-concepts-11-4-0/2.html) 1.1.1.1 is not configured on F5 and maybe VS 0/0 will be chosen. In other hand, this quotation does not say if it applies to first/incoming traffic or return traffic.\"
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Response packets are already routed back as per connections table records, not as per virtual server configurations. You certainly don't have to configure 1.1.1.1 VS to ensure response packets are routed back.
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\"...\nResponse packet from F5 to Client => SIP: ??? DIP:1.1.1.1\nInstead of \"???\" which SIP is correct? 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.2.1? I assume and as you said previously (and I want to be) it is 192.168.1.1\"
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SIP is 192.168.1.1
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\"(https://support.f5.com/kb/en-us/products/big-ip_ltm/manuals/product/ltm-concepts-11-4-0/2.html) 1.1.1.1 is not configured on F5 and maybe VS 0/0 will be chosen. In other hand, this quotation does not say if it applies to first/incoming traffic or return traffic.\"
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Response packets are already routed back as per connections table records, not as per virtual server configurations. You certainly don't have to configure 1.1.1.1 VS to ensure response packets are routed back.
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\"...\nResponse packet from F5 to Client => SIP: ??? DIP:1.1.1.1\nInstead of \"???\" which SIP is correct? 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.2.1? I assume and as you said previously (and I want to be) it is 192.168.1.1\"
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SIP is 192.168.1.1
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\"(https://support.f5.com/kb/en-us/products/big-ip_ltm/manuals/product/ltm-concepts-11-4-0/2.html) 1.1.1.1 is not configured on F5 and maybe VS 0/0 will be chosen. In other hand, this quotation does not say if it applies to first/incoming traffic or return traffic.\"
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Response packets are already routed back as per connections table records, not as per virtual server configurations. You certainly don't have to configure 1.1.1.1 VS to ensure response packets are routed back.
Second example. When server is originating connection to NET it hits VS 0/0, is that right? No SNAT is configured so source address of server is seen outside? The route on FW pass traffic back to SRV via F5.
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yes unless you also have snat list configuration.
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It is enabled only on server-vlan. If I understand correctly when the server itself is originating connection outside it will hit VS 0/0. How does this configuration applies when connection is originating from another subnet (for example behind FW) to server IP address (not VS1). Connection will be dropped/rejected? Should VS 0/0 listen on all vlans to allow such connections?
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yes connection will be rejected. bigip is default deny device. to allow traffic, object listener (i.e. virtual server, snat, nat) is required.
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sol9038: The order of precedence for local traffic object listeners
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Second example. When server is originating connection to NET it hits VS 0/0, is that right? No SNAT is configured so source address of server is seen outside? The route on FW pass traffic back to SRV via F5.
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yes unless you also have snat list configuration.
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It is enabled only on server-vlan. If I understand correctly when the server itself is originating connection outside it will hit VS 0/0. How does this configuration applies when connection is originating from another subnet (for example behind FW) to server IP address (not VS1). Connection will be dropped/rejected? Should VS 0/0 listen on all vlans to allow such connections?
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yes connection will be rejected. bigip is default deny device. to allow traffic, object listener (i.e. virtual server, snat, nat) is required.
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