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Hi all
\nI have started to push Botd more and more as a solution for fending off ddos attacks.
\nHowever, I often end up with a lot of false positives or blocked or challenged requests which are normal clients.
\nFor now I circumvent it by turning off botd for parts of the application with ltm policies.
\nAny good ideas or a better and more systematic approach would be very welcome 🙂
\nHi all
\nI have started to push Botd more and more as a solution for fending off ddos attacks.
\nHowever, I often end up with a lot of false positives or blocked or challenged requests which are normal clients.
\nFor now I circumvent it by turning off botd for parts of the application with ltm policies.
\nAny good ideas or a better and more systematic approach would be very welcome 🙂
\nNikoolayy1 I have bellow LTM policy on my VS:
\n\n
for bw_botd I have these settings to accomodate the app:
\n\n
and this to go more aggressively on the browser:
\n\n
Btw I think enabling SPA does make it work more smoothly - thanks 🙂
\nI'm using 16.1.3.3.
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for bw_botd I have these settings to accomodate the app:
\nand this to go more aggressively on the browser:
\nBtw I think enabling SPA does make it work more smoothly - thanks 🙂
\nI'm using 16.1.3.3.
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After some tests switching the Bot protection profiles with Local Traffic policies (for the web form login url the bot profile uses the javascript based browser verification ) it seems the feature browser verification does not work even when from the local traffic policy and the logs the URL is matching the Bot protection profile that has browser verification enabled. I tested switching with verify before and after access but it does not work on 15.1.8.1 😀
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Do you also see the same issue lnxgeek ?
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Do you also see the same issue
And you have tested that something like curl, browser where cookies are or apache benchmark are blocked when accessing urls that are protected with bot profile that has \"Verify After Access\" and it is the javascript checks not the signatures that block them?
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This can be seen in the traffic logs for bot or just opening browser and blocking it to accept cookies and you will see if you are truly blocked and you will also see the javascript message.
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https://cdn.f5.com/product/bugtracker/ID703129.html
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You can also update the Bot signatures just in case as many such issues are solved with signature upgrade.
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Also the workarounds like modify sys db botdefense.suspicious_js_score value 60 or dosl7.browser_legit_min_score can be done till F5 maybe fixes the signatures.
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https://cdn.f5.com/product/bugtracker/ID1029373.html
\nhttps://cdn.f5.com/product/bugtracker/ID699772.html
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Definitely some settings I will dig into.
\nThanks yet again.
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