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Hey DeepSeek, can you write iRules?
Back in time... Two years ago I asked ChatGPT whether it could write iRules. My conclusion after giving several tasks to ChatGPT was, that it can help with simple tasks but it cannot write intermediate or complex iRules. A new AI enters the competition Two weeks ago DeepSeek entered the scene and thought it's a good idea to ask it about its capabilities to write iRules. Spoiler alert: It cannot. New AI, same challenges I asked DeepSeek the same questions I asked ChatGPT 2 years ago. Write me an iRule that redirects HTTP to HTTPS Can you write an iRule that rewrites the host header in HTTP Request and Response? Can you write an iRule that will make a loadbalancing decision based on the HTTP Host header? Can you write an iRule that will make a loadbalancing decision based on the HTTP URI header? Write me an iRule that shows different ASM blocking pages based on the host header. The response should include the support ID. I stopped DeepSeek asking after the 5th question, DeepSeek is clueless about iRules. The answer I got from DeepSeek to 1, 2, 4 and 5 was always the same: when HTTP_REQUEST { # Check if the request is coming to port 80 (HTTP) if { [TCP::local_port] equals 80 } { # Construct the HTTPS URL set host [HTTP::host] set uri [HTTP::uri] set redirect_url "https://${host}${uri}" # Perform the redirect HTTP::redirect $redirect_url } } While this is a solution to task 1, it is plain wrong for 2, 3, 4 and 5. And even for the first challenge this is not a good. Actually it hurts me reading this iRule... Here for example task 2, just wrong... For task 3 DeepSeeks answer was: ChatGPT in 2025 For completeness, I gave the same tasks from 2023 to ChatGPT again. Briefly said - ChatGPT was OK in solving tasks 1-4 in 2023 and still is. It improved it's solution for task 5, the ASM iRule challenge. In 2023 I had two more tasks related to rewriting and redirecting. ChatGPT still failed to provide a solid solution for those two tasks. Conclusion DeepSeek cannot write iRules and ChatGPT still isn't good at it. Write your own iRules or ask the friendly people here on devcentral to help you.
Daniel_Wolf
Mar 19, 2025 Place Community Articles
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Agentic RAG - Securing GenAI with F5 Distributed Cloud Services
Agentic RAG (Retrieval-Augmented Generation) enhances the capabilities of a GenAI chatbot by integrating dynamic knowledge retrieval into its conversational abilities, making it more context-aware and accurate. In this demo, I will focus on security aspect of the solution. This demonstration will highlight the various security measures implemented and enforced in our AI reference architecture for this Agentic RAG. F5 is a trusted leader in security, with a track record of delivering robust solutions for securing applications and networks. Recognized by many independent evaluations as a Leader in Web Application and API Security from IDC, SC Award, TrustRadius, EMA, and many more, F5 exemplifies excellence and innovation. These endorsements affirm F5’s expertise, reassuring organizations that their digital assets are protected by a capable, reputable partner that keeps pace with evolving security needs.
Foo-Bang_Chan
Feb 13, 2025 Place Technical Articles
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