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The cert for the node should result from a private key and csr on the node subsequently signed by a CA the LTM trusts. Of course its possible to skin this cat many different ways by exporting private keys etc but I'd keep it simple and stick to best practice.
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Assuming you have the client_ssl profile running and only the server_ssl side to sort out check your CN matches the name resolved for the node and that the LTM trusts the signatory.\n\nOh, and use 'openssl s_client' for debugging ssl client connections, it will save you hours and hours and hours of time.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2010-09-07T17:36:07.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2010-09-07T17:36:07.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":466},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"AssociatedImage:{\"url\":\"https://community.f5.com/t5/s/zihoc95639/images/cmstMzYtWjgzVzZJ\"}":{"__typename":"AssociatedImage","url":"https://community.f5.com/t5/s/zihoc95639/images/cmstMzYtWjgzVzZJ","height":0,"width":0,"mimeType":"image/svg+xml"},"Rank:rank:36":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:36","position":13,"name":"Cirrocumulus","color":"CCCCCC","icon":{"__ref":"AssociatedImage:{\"url\":\"https://community.f5.com/t5/s/zihoc95639/images/cmstMzYtWjgzVzZJ\"}"},"rankStyle":"FILLED"},"User:user:213103":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:213103","uid":213103,"login":"Hamish","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2008-06-07T01:00:00.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.f5.com/t5/s/zihoc95639/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-1.svg?time=0"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:36"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:zihoc95639/user:213103"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:20106":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:20106","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:20106":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:213103"},"id":"message:20106","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:20104/message:20106","revisionNum":1,"uid":20106,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:20104"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:20104"},"subject":"Re: Load Balancing SSL LDAP requests","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:20106"},"body":"You don't necessarily need a cert on the backend, unless you're going to re-encrypt the traffic between the F5 and the server. (You could just run plain text, but would need to translate any redirects from ldap:// to ldaps://
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If you are going to re-encrypt, you could just use a self signed cert on the ldap server itself. The F5 won't care. And it'll save you the money.
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So not sure if this would matter, but I did both the client side cert and server side cert as self signed certificates generated on the LTM. That should eliminate the CA trust issue right?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2010-09-08T08:04:20.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2010-09-08T08:04:20.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":455},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:9090":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:9090","uid":9090,"login":"bluepet_10591","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-08-21T01:00:00.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.f5.com/t5/s/zihoc95639/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=0"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:zihoc95639/user:9090"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:20108":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:20108","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:20108":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:9090"},"id":"message:20108","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Forums/community:zihoc95639board:TechnicalForum/message:20104/message:20108","revisionNum":1,"uid":20108,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalForum"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:20104"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:20104"},"subject":"Re: Load Balancing SSL LDAP requests","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:20108"},"body":"Doug,
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Sorry for crashing into your topic, hopefully I can try work out within this topic as its similar if not the same as what I am trying to implement. Maybe we can try work them out together.
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Client hit request to ldap://server.mydomain.com:1234 ---F5 and then F5 send to an internal LDAP - ldap1.dmz.com
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My setup - (still working in progress) - virtual sever with the following profiles
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1. client ssl profile with a certificate & key using server.mydomain.com cert
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2. server ssl profile with a self sign cert from ldap1.dmz.com - certificate=self sign ldap1.dmz.com, key = none, rest =default
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I believe for my setup, i have to do it on the LTM by maybe using iRule the string ldap://server.mydomain.com 1000 and convert them to ldap://ldap1.dmz.com 40000
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Still trying to figure that out or am I going down the wrong road?
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How did you set yours up Doug? is it similar?
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I uses an LDAP client to test it out and can see the SSL terminating to the F5 (wireshark) and looks like it is trying to talk to the back end ldap but didnt progress further than shown below.
Retrieving base DSA information... --> just stuck here
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How far have you gone with your setup?
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Will try the following tomorrow
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PC with the LDP tool ------ F5 ----------LDAP server
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Will do wireshark on the LDAP server and also tcpdump on the F5. Will try see difference between the two and see how far the F5 portion is working.
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I am also looking into this solution so let me know how if you successful to implement.
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