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Basic setup is a virtual server on 443 with a cert on the front end, two servers on the back end being load balanced and running SSL/TLS as well. We want to be able to authenticate the users using the cert on the CAC. The app looks at fields in the CAC cert, specifically the CN.
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If we put the app on a FastL4 server the authentication works however we don't have persistence and that causes timeouts and other problems.
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I have tried everything I can think of and this just refuses to work. I don't have a ton of experience with CACs so I am sure I am missing something.
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Any help is appreciated.
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Mike Harpe
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US Army Human Resources Command
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Fort Knox, KY
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Basic setup is a virtual server on 443 with a cert on the front end, two servers on the back end being load balanced and running SSL/TLS as well. We want to be able to authenticate the users using the cert on the CAC. The app looks at fields in the CAC cert, specifically the CN.
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If we put the app on a FastL4 server the authentication works however we don't have persistence and that causes timeouts and other problems.
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I have tried everything I can think of and this just refuses to work. I don't have a ton of experience with CACs so I am sure I am missing something.
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Any help is appreciated.
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Mike Harpe
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US Army Human Resources Command
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Fort Knox, KY
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So basically you want to be able to pass a certificate from a client through the LTM to one of the servers on the back side is what I am hearing.
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You are going to need to use an iRule for this and put the information into the Header for the server to read. I am doing something like this with one of our applications that runs through an ASM. Your issue is that the connection is proxied and the client certificate is not being passed from the client side of the connection to the server side of the connection.
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One other thing you could do is just do the client cert auth on the LTM itself through the Client SSL profile. Again you will need an iRule if you want to check for certain CNs but it is a pretty simple iRule I am also using this logic for a couple applications I run. See reference below.
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http://devcentral.f5.com/wiki/iRules.ClientCertificateCNChecking.ashx
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The upside is that you can handle mutual auth through LTM without modifying the client or app. The downside is that you're not offloading the SSL from the servers to LTM.
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Implementing Proxy SSL on a Single BIG-IP System
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Make sure to use 11.1 with the latest hotfix as there have been some recent fixes.
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That's the goal. I haven't tested it with ASM though.
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You should be able to import each server cert/key into a separate server SSL profile, add the default client SSL profile, each of the server SSL profiles, an HTTP profile and an HTTP class to the VS.
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If you give it a try let us know what you find. I'll do the same.
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